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eppur_se_muova

(36,274 posts)
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:05 AM May 2022

Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' (MSN/BusIns)

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Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' UK defense minister says
wbostock@businessinsider.com (Bill Bostock) - 5h ago

Wrecked Russian fighter jets are being found with rudimentary GPS receivers "taped to the dashboards" in Ukraine because their inbuilt navigation systems are so bad, the UK defense minister said.

Speaking at the National Army Museum in London on Monday, Ben Wallace commemorated those who died in World War II and called Russia's invasion of Ukraine "senseless and self-defeating."

He also said there was evidence suggesting Russian military hardware was being pushed to breaking point by the invasion of Ukraine.

"'GPS' receivers have been found taped to the dashboards of downed Russian Su-34s so the pilots knew where they were, due to the poor quality of their own systems," he said.

"The result is that whilst Russia have large amounts of artillery and armor that they like parading, they are unable to leverage them for combined arms maneuver and just resort to mass indiscriminate barrages."
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NOTE C-CLAMP

Apparently they used commercial GPS from US mfgrs in the Syrian war: https://defence-blog.com/russian-pilots-use-us-made-gps-receives-during-combat-missions-in-syria/

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Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' (MSN/BusIns) (Original Post) eppur_se_muova May 2022 OP
Genius wonderful savvy underpants May 2022 #1
IMO, another reason Putin invaded Ukraine, gab13by13 May 2022 #4
Yep yep yep underpants May 2022 #8
'Downed Russian fighter jets are being found with basic GPS 'taped to the dashboards,' (MSN/BusIns) empedocles May 2022 #2
I still can't tell whether headlines are from the Onion or not. MissB May 2022 #9
None of what we are learning about the incrediblly poor state of the invader's niyad May 2022 #3
Unbelievable. brer cat May 2022 #5
Hack the GPS coordinates C_U_L8R May 2022 #6
As suspected. Sneederbunk May 2022 #7
Great pic empedocles May 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a May 2022 #10
All the advanced navigation you need from Walmart dalton99a May 2022 #12
They were doing this in Syria DetroitLegalBeagle May 2022 #13
I've added that to the OP. The photo is apparently from Syria. nt eppur_se_muova May 2022 #14
That's what happens when all the money is blown Raine May 2022 #15

underpants

(182,844 posts)
1. Genius wonderful savvy
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:10 AM
May 2022

“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

gab13by13

(21,363 posts)
4. IMO, another reason Putin invaded Ukraine,
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:27 AM
May 2022

was to damage president Biden once Russia took over the country in 3 days. Statements like Trump made at the beginning of the invasion, bragging on Putin, tells me that Trump was complicit.

Think about what would have happened had Putin taken over Ukraine in 3 days. The narrative would have been that president Biden was weak. The narrative coming from Trump would have been that Putin never invaded Ukraine while I was president.

Something happened on the way to the opera; Putin and Trump severely underestimated president Biden. President Biden kept NATO and our allies united which is now making Putin look weak.

President Biden to this day does not get enough credit for helping Ukraine stave off Russia.

One big reason that Putin invaded Ukraine was to take out president Biden and return his puppet Trump back in power. I am certain of this. Once Putin, through Trump, destroyed our democracy, other democracies would follow suit.

underpants

(182,844 posts)
8. Yep yep yep
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:29 PM
May 2022

But Putin had to be planning this for longer than Joe’s been in office. Of course Trump has made the claims you posted. This war is barely on Fox News - waaaay to embarrassing for both Trump and their hero (not Obama) Putin.

Corruption and Generals lying to each other is as big a tradition in Russia/USSR as artillery and cold winters.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
9. I still can't tell whether headlines are from the Onion or not.
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:38 PM
May 2022


I think I have one of those Garmin eTrex gps units in my basement, from long ago.

niyad

(113,464 posts)
3. None of what we are learning about the incrediblly poor state of the invader's
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:26 AM
May 2022

equipment and technology would even pass muster as a comedy sketch. Too unbelievable.

Response to eppur_se_muova (Original post)

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
13. They were doing this in Syria
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:19 PM
May 2022

If I remember right, pics some of the pilots took of themselves while flying missions in Syria showed them using off the shelf GPS receivers as well.

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