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Reporting your unwanted pregnancy to your employer so they can pay for you to travel (Original Post) milestogo May 2022 OP
One presumes there would be an HR designee to handle these matters and immediate supervisor hlthe2b May 2022 #1
Many big companies have Employee Assistance Programs spooky3 May 2022 #11
That was my first question when I heard these reports, and... MANative May 2022 #2
Thank you wryter2000 May 2022 #22
You skipped right over the part where he says Arazi May 2022 #23
As an HR manager, I'm with you on this Sympthsical May 2022 #28
What could go wrong? dchill May 2022 #3
Exactly. Who is going to go to their boss and HR to ask for this benefit? Irish_Dem May 2022 #4
nosy co-workers... "what are you doing on your leave"? Demovictory9 May 2022 #5
Ask them if they will be having sex that night. LiberalFighter May 2022 #9
lol...then wait from visit from HR Demovictory9 May 2022 #15
Ah come on, don't you trust that MAGA hat wearing manager who treats all the non-xtian employees ... uponit7771 May 2022 #6
Well apparently genxlib May 2022 #7
Well thats the thing... milestogo May 2022 #10
Exactly. Employers driving health care is generally not a great thing. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #8
How about a pregnancy stipend? Raven May 2022 #12
No one is required to do it wryter2000 May 2022 #13
. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #14
It would be a requirment wryter2000 May 2022 #20
Many, many "requirements" are violated in the workplace all the time. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #24
So... wryter2000 May 2022 #27
What if your HR person is a devout anti-choice Catholic? milestogo May 2022 #17
You and others are certainly right that there could be real problems wryter2000 May 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #16
Needless to say, you are referring to Hobby lobby and Chick-f-let. madinmaryland May 2022 #21
It would really be uncomfortable if you were having an affair with the supervisor... Sancho May 2022 #19
I know. There's something really wrong with this "helpful" notion. nt Hekate May 2022 #25
K&R Solly Mack May 2022 #26
The way it would work with my employer MissB May 2022 #29
But this would be leave to commit a crime. "Murder" specifically Arazi May 2022 #30

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
1. One presumes there would be an HR designee to handle these matters and immediate supervisor
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:20 PM
May 2022

would only be told that leave had been approved. Similar to how large corporations handle Family & Medical Leave requests, given HIPAA.

spooky3

(34,461 posts)
11. Many big companies have Employee Assistance Programs
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:59 PM
May 2022

To deal with sensitive matters. They might be asked to handle this travel, also, without even the supervisor’s knowing the reason.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_assistance_program

MANative

(4,112 posts)
2. That was my first question when I heard these reports, and...
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:29 PM
May 2022

I'm a VP of HR. If an employee came to me with that kind of info, I certainly know how to maintain privacy, but someone in Finance would inevitably get involved in processing payments, etc. Not likely that privacy could be maintained. I think the sentiment is right, but the practical application could get very messy.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
22. Thank you
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:58 PM
May 2022

The sentiment is right. Everyone else in this thread seems to think this is some kind of trap to get employees to report their pregnancy to HR so the information can be spread far and wide before they're told "No, you have to continue the pregnancy."

Honestly, if a company felt that way, they wouldn't have offered help to begin with.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
23. You skipped right over the part where he says
Tue May 10, 2022, 07:40 PM
May 2022

“The practical application could get very messy”.

Exactly the point everyone’s trying to make. This isn’t a topic like “Jane Doe needs FMLA to care for a sick family member”.

It’s abortion which 30% (plus or minus) of the population thinks is murder. And these are employees in red states where the government agrees it’s murder, and where abortion is considered a crime.

Jane Doe faces the very real probability that her boss, coworkers, HR contact, and/or finance person etc believes she’s committing a crime.

Sympthsical

(9,081 posts)
28. As an HR manager, I'm with you on this
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:35 AM
May 2022

I get the thought and sentiment. However, I'm trying to think of what would actually happen vs. what should happen.

I'm fortunate I live and work in a deep blue state, so this situation will never arise. Just thinking of confidentiality and the number of people who could potentially be involved gives me anxiety. Could you imagine what would happen if the information leaked? Who likes arbitration!

Very no thank you.

But I do get the thought.

Irish_Dem

(47,160 posts)
4. Exactly. Who is going to go to their boss and HR to ask for this benefit?
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:34 PM
May 2022

The whole company will know in 24 hours.

And can you imagine what happens then?

Demovictory9

(32,464 posts)
5. nosy co-workers... "what are you doing on your leave"?
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:35 PM
May 2022

i had co workers that would not let it go until they knew your itinerary for a day off

LiberalFighter

(50,980 posts)
9. Ask them if they will be having sex that night.
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:51 PM
May 2022

If not, why not. If they are, whether it will be heterosexual or with same sex. If it will be missionary or other. If they intend to get pregnant or just for fun.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
6. Ah come on, don't you trust that MAGA hat wearing manager who treats all the non-xtian employees ...
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:36 PM
May 2022

... like they're crap ?! / sarc

Yeah, bad idea

genxlib

(5,528 posts)
7. Well apparently
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:49 PM
May 2022

No women has the right to that kind of privacy.

At least that is what I am told by the Supreme Court.

The absurdity of it all just makes it that much more maddening.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
10. Well thats the thing...
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:53 PM
May 2022

What woman, married or not, wants her coworkers, managers, etc. to know she is dealing with an unwanted pregnancy? Its very private medical information. Its nobody elses business. Frankly, if it were me I would find any other way to pay for it than asking my employer.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
13. No one is required to do it
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:06 PM
May 2022

They can cover their own expenses. You're right, it would be very uncomfortable, but I imagine HR would keep the information confidential. You'd simply go on vacation for a few days.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
20. It would be a requirment
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:54 PM
May 2022

HR information is confidential. Anyone who released it would be subject to discipline or dismissal. If not, the company is totally corrupt and wouldn't have offered this assistance to begin with.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
27. So...
Wed May 11, 2022, 12:11 AM
May 2022

Companies who offered this would do it to entrap their workers to report pregnancies to HR so the information could be passed on to other employees, one of whom would report it to the police.

God, I’m so naïve.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
17. What if your HR person is a devout anti-choice Catholic?
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:35 PM
May 2022

Think she'll approve your request without trying to talk you out of it?

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
18. You and others are certainly right that there could be real problems
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:51 PM
May 2022

However, the company is trying to help. They're not requiring anyone report their pregnancy or their plans to end if. They're just trying to help employees go out of state to get care. Do you know of a better way to help?

Employees would have to ask for assistance with any kind of medical problem. Someone in HR would know about it. If there's a better option for employers to help, suggest it.

There's no right to this benefit. There's no requirement people use it. It's not a regular employee benefit that's being restricted. The only other option would be for the company to move to another state. I would certainly recommend not opening a facility in a place where abortion is illegal, but what if they're already there?

Response to milestogo (Original post)

MissB

(15,810 posts)
29. The way it would work with my employer
Wed May 11, 2022, 05:45 AM
May 2022

I would have a code for the leave. HR would be notified; they’d walk me through the process of making the travel arrangements on the company dime. It’d be treated like any other out of state travel, except I’d be required to code my time as some sort of sick leave category specific to this benefit.

The companies that are offering this are large ones with actual HR departments with professional HR people.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
30. But this would be leave to commit a crime. "Murder" specifically
Wed May 11, 2022, 08:30 AM
May 2022

Would everyone in your HR or Finance department be onboard with facilitating that for employees?

Especially since these would be HR/Finance employees willingly living in red states so there’s a higher likelihood of them being anti-abortion. Would employees want the fact that they’re committing a “crime” on their HR record?

Would that info never leak, especially in states that offer bounties?

Furthermore can’t the state subpoena records if they suspect there’s been a crime committed?

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