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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReporting your unwanted pregnancy to your employer so they can pay for you to travel
seems like it might be a tad uncomfortable. Who wants their manager, supervisor, or HR person to know this kind of information?
hlthe2b
(102,304 posts)would only be told that leave had been approved. Similar to how large corporations handle Family & Medical Leave requests, given HIPAA.
spooky3
(34,461 posts)To deal with sensitive matters. They might be asked to handle this travel, also, without even the supervisors knowing the reason.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_assistance_program
MANative
(4,112 posts)I'm a VP of HR. If an employee came to me with that kind of info, I certainly know how to maintain privacy, but someone in Finance would inevitably get involved in processing payments, etc. Not likely that privacy could be maintained. I think the sentiment is right, but the practical application could get very messy.
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)The sentiment is right. Everyone else in this thread seems to think this is some kind of trap to get employees to report their pregnancy to HR so the information can be spread far and wide before they're told "No, you have to continue the pregnancy."
Honestly, if a company felt that way, they wouldn't have offered help to begin with.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)The practical application could get very messy.
Exactly the point everyones trying to make. This isnt a topic like Jane Doe needs FMLA to care for a sick family member.
Its abortion which 30% (plus or minus) of the population thinks is murder. And these are employees in red states where the government agrees its murder, and where abortion is considered a crime.
Jane Doe faces the very real probability that her boss, coworkers, HR contact, and/or finance person etc believes shes committing a crime.
Sympthsical
(9,081 posts)I get the thought and sentiment. However, I'm trying to think of what would actually happen vs. what should happen.
I'm fortunate I live and work in a deep blue state, so this situation will never arise. Just thinking of confidentiality and the number of people who could potentially be involved gives me anxiety. Could you imagine what would happen if the information leaked? Who likes arbitration!
Very no thank you.
But I do get the thought.
dchill
(38,510 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,160 posts)The whole company will know in 24 hours.
And can you imagine what happens then?
Demovictory9
(32,464 posts)i had co workers that would not let it go until they knew your itinerary for a day off
LiberalFighter
(50,980 posts)If not, why not. If they are, whether it will be heterosexual or with same sex. If it will be missionary or other. If they intend to get pregnant or just for fun.
Demovictory9
(32,464 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... like they're crap ?! / sarc
Yeah, bad idea
genxlib
(5,528 posts)No women has the right to that kind of privacy.
At least that is what I am told by the Supreme Court.
The absurdity of it all just makes it that much more maddening.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)What woman, married or not, wants her coworkers, managers, etc. to know she is dealing with an unwanted pregnancy? Its very private medical information. Its nobody elses business. Frankly, if it were me I would find any other way to pay for it than asking my employer.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,362 posts)Raven
(13,895 posts)wryter2000
(46,051 posts)They can cover their own expenses. You're right, it would be very uncomfortable, but I imagine HR would keep the information confidential. You'd simply go on vacation for a few days.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,362 posts)wryter2000
(46,051 posts)HR information is confidential. Anyone who released it would be subject to discipline or dismissal. If not, the company is totally corrupt and wouldn't have offered this assistance to begin with.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,362 posts)wryter2000
(46,051 posts)Companies who offered this would do it to entrap their workers to report pregnancies to HR so the information could be passed on to other employees, one of whom would report it to the police.
God, Im so naïve.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Think she'll approve your request without trying to talk you out of it?
wryter2000
(46,051 posts)However, the company is trying to help. They're not requiring anyone report their pregnancy or their plans to end if. They're just trying to help employees go out of state to get care. Do you know of a better way to help?
Employees would have to ask for assistance with any kind of medical problem. Someone in HR would know about it. If there's a better option for employers to help, suggest it.
There's no right to this benefit. There's no requirement people use it. It's not a regular employee benefit that's being restricted. The only other option would be for the company to move to another state. I would certainly recommend not opening a facility in a place where abortion is illegal, but what if they're already there?
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madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)Hekate
(90,734 posts)Solly Mack
(90,775 posts)MissB
(15,810 posts)I would have a code for the leave. HR would be notified; theyd walk me through the process of making the travel arrangements on the company dime. Itd be treated like any other out of state travel, except Id be required to code my time as some sort of sick leave category specific to this benefit.
The companies that are offering this are large ones with actual HR departments with professional HR people.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Would everyone in your HR or Finance department be onboard with facilitating that for employees?
Especially since these would be HR/Finance employees willingly living in red states so theres a higher likelihood of them being anti-abortion. Would employees want the fact that theyre committing a crime on their HR record?
Would that info never leak, especially in states that offer bounties?
Furthermore cant the state subpoena records if they suspect theres been a crime committed?