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Tristan Snell @TristanSnell 2hBREAKING: Federal grand jury has been empaneled by DOJ on Trump illegally taking classified material to Mar-a-Lago. https://t.co/u6cVFwb1KS
Link to tweet
NYT: Prosecutors Pursue Inquiry Into Trumps Handling of Classified Material
A federal grand jury has issued at least one subpoena, and investigators are seeking interviews in the case of sensitive documents that ended up at the former presidents Florida home.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/us/politics/justice-department-trump-classified.html
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)So much for the people who claim it isn't doing anything. It has been all along, and will continue to do things to find and prosecute wrongdoers, at every level.
Vinca
(50,302 posts)I'm glad they're doing it, but it will mean jack squat unless there's an indictment.
MerryHolidays
(7,715 posts)There were DoJ guidelines against indicting a sitting President. The same does not apply for a former President.
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)agingdem
(7,852 posts)Last edited Thu May 12, 2022, 06:26 PM - Edit history (1)
January 6 changed everything...we had a president that conspired to overthrow an election to stay in power by any means necessary...treason, sedition, insurrection, coup...all unprecedented...indicting an ex-president is also unprecedented...Garland said he would prosecute whomever is responsible for the January 6 insurrection whether they were present or committed other crimes "at any level"...let's take him at his word..for now
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)agingdem
(7,852 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Otherwise, this may end up being an indictment for a fall guy or explained away as mistake or negligence.
We already know that the word from the Pig's camp will be to blame someone else.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)yup
rownesheck
(2,343 posts)imprisoned or dead.
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Skittles
(153,174 posts)yup
speak easy
(9,293 posts)perhaps by a potassium chloride heart attack.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)Response to Skittles (Reply #5)
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ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)I'm glad I got here ahead of the gloom and doom crowd with their "this means nothing," "nothing will ever be done about Trump," "the DOJ is useless, and oh, btw, the sky is falling" posts. Because this really sounds like a new wrinkle to me. A federal grand jury, wow!
It's just nice to come into a post like this ready to celebrate some good news and NOT find that the parade has already been rained all over for once!
I'm excited and encouraged by this, and anyone who thinks I shouldn't be can go find a different parade to rain on!
ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)I obviously spent too much time composing my post. There was no gloom and doom here when I hit the reply button, I swear!
I stand by what I already said. This IS something new and different, and I believe it's a good sign!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)"The intensifying inquiry suggests that the Justice Department is examining the role of Mr. Trump and other officials in his White House in their handling of sensitive materials during the final stages of his administration. . . . . . .
"Charges are rarely brought in investigations into the handling of classified documents. But the Justice Department typically conducts them to determine whether any highly sensitive information may have been exposed so the intelligence community can take measures to protect sources and methods."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/12/us/politics/justice-department-trump-classified.html
Emile
(22,879 posts)EOM
empedocles
(15,751 posts)and, despite a mountain of evidence, [remember OJ first trial], fail to get all 12 jurors to vote to convict, [trump will by 'hook or crook', use tremendous resources [dark monies, etc.], to 'find' one juror [remember gangster gotti finding one], - the risk being a substantial risk to democracy/democracies.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... investigating him on national TV.
That's just one case to be investigated and sent to trial if DOJ was really after TFG
Ptah
(33,034 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)That the statute of limitations isn't tolled by the length of term in office.
ShazzieB
(16,485 posts)The clock shouldn't even have started running on the statute of limitations until he was out of office.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)The lesson of OJ trial 1, and 1500 year old chess, - is that it needs to be [just about?] impossible for, the [magat] king, to escape.
[Prosecutors know this, the public does not].
[A resounding November 2022 republican defeat would help]
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And therefore has convened this grand jury to lead with this case, a cascade of other cases to follow according to the likelihood of conviction.
former9thward
(32,066 posts)The chance that Trump physically moved the documents is zero. Whether he ordered certain documents be moved would be a very murky case at best.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)... call that win or lose the case.
They should do their job and leave politics to the politicians
Marius25
(3,213 posts)The statute of limitations already ran out on one of Trump's obstruction charges.
Walleye
(31,039 posts)iloveObama12
(421 posts)If so we're fucked! 😟