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I dont delve into the macabre often. I dont even watch Law & Order. Thinking about monstrous people isnt something I enjoy. I understand the obsession with true crime, but podcasts featuring tales of sex trafficking, torture, murder, and rape are the last thing I associate with relaxation.
There is a place to talk about crazy fucked up shit, and often sports aint it. Bring up a story about human trafficking at the Super Bowl in the run up to The Big Game and watch how many people fidget uncomfortably until they can talk about wide receiver matchups again.
A recent story out of the Southwest caught my eye because the headline was so alarming and attention grabbing, and I thought, hell, this is as good a time as any to bring attention to an awful aspect of our world.
A Texas family was reunited with their 15-year-old daughter after she left her seat to use the restroom at a Mavs game and never came back. The girl was located with more help from a Houston-based human trafficking agency than law enforcement 200 miles away as part of a sex-trafficking ring.
The girls father notified police at the game, who told him to call the police department where he lives in North Richland Hills. They told him they couldnt help because the incident happened in Dallas, according to the story.
Missing persons reports were filed and time passed. The family wasnt satisfied and reached out to the Texas Counter-Trafficking Initiative, who located a nude photo of the girl used for online sex advertisements through facial recognition software and notified Oklahoma City Police. The police then found the teen and arrested eight people in connection with the case.
https://deadspin.com/a-girl-was-abducted-at-a-mavs-game-and-found-200-miles-1848924942
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This dad better sue the britches off the police at the game, who I assume were Dallas PD
Blue Owl
(50,523 posts)Especially at every entrance/exit -- sounds like major police/security failure...
TheBlackAdder
(28,225 posts).
There was an imprint of the cart in the front fender. I asked the Aldi shop if there were cameras in the lot and one of the shift supervisors said there wasn't any, as then they would have to produce camera footage to the police on every incident. Instead, there are no cameras, a wasted police report and I just ate the expense as my deductible was $750. Couldn't track the shopper back to the sales receipt.
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rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)You can count on it.
niyad
(113,594 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)The Unmitigated Gall
(3,836 posts)The crime happened in their damn jurisdiction. Unbelievable to refer a frightened and desperate family to some other police force in some other town. Precious time was lost, and massive harm came to this poor girl.
spooky3
(34,484 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,008 posts)instead of these half-assed cops who shrug their shoulders and say, "Not my business."
Liberal In Texas
(13,584 posts)This is an absurd accusation.
The girl met this person -for whatever reason - and walked out with him willingly. It's on surveillance video.
No amount of security would have prevented this.
spooky3
(34,484 posts)Its not an accusation; its a suggestion.
Liberal In Texas
(13,584 posts)HAVE PREVENTED THIS!
She voluntarily walked away with the perp. It's on video!
spooky3
(34,484 posts)Here is an article identifying steps that could have been taken:
https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/local/crime/article261353877.html
You do not know that she voluntarily walked away with the suspect. He could have said I have a gun, and if you make a sound or false move, Ill kill you or threatened her family, etc. You apparently didnt see this post, which described other ways the suspect may have used to get her to go with him:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16696011
Liberal In Texas
(13,584 posts)From your Startlegram link: "He said the man that lured the teenage girl from the game found her in an area inside the center that he did not have a valid ticket to be in, and that the fraudulent ticket the man had was provided by an individual known to the Dallas Mavericks and American Airlines Center as a seller of fraudulent tickets." They could have been more proactive about keeping someone without a valid ticket out of this area.
Willing as opposed to being physically restrained and dragged from the venue. It's speculation that she was threatened just as it is that there is a good possibility that this teenager was meeting some guy she connected with on the internet.
There is just not a lot of information about this yet.
LeftInTX
(25,589 posts)The father called North Richland Hills police, but was told by the law enforcement agency that it couldnt help because the the incident happened in Dallas, Fortenberry said.
North Richland Hills police said that they received the report about the missing teen at 1:27 a.m., about six hours after the game started. The department said the teen was entered in the national missing person database by 3:24 a.m. on April 9.
Dallas Police said they helped North Richland Hills PD and created a bulletin for the missing teen that went out to the department on April 11.
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2022/05/11/texas-teen-goes-to-restroom-at-nba-arena-police-find-her-10-days-later-in-oklahoma-hotel-sold-for-sex/
Dallas dropped the ball...
They said the report needed to be filed where she "lived", but she went missing in Dallas. What a clusterfuck.
I would sue!
dchill
(38,556 posts)Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)would they have said the same thing? Whats the magic number when they stop protecting children?
keithbvadu2
(36,949 posts)bottomofthehill
(8,351 posts)He would let the rapists take children to OK to rape them. There are many failures in this all of them led to the prolonged harm of a child.
soldierant
(6,937 posts)Apparently that means, anong other things, into sports events. (I originally figured it meant into government.)
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Wouldn't she have started screaming for her life? If they had drugged or incapacitated her, wouldn't that have been noticeable? Wouldn't the whole thing have been on security footage in the arena?
I'm not discounting this horrific tragedy that ended with her rescue. It's just that the details of the kidnapping boggle my mind.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,110 posts)LonePirate
(13,431 posts)I'm not blaming the victim here. It's just how brazen and public the crime was which truly shocks me. She wasn't grabbed in a quiet, low-traffic neighborhood while walking home from school. This was one of the most public and presumably secure places in America. My pea-sized brain simply cannot comprehend it all.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)LonePirate
(13,431 posts)It speaks to how it happened and/or who did it. You cited someone in authority at the arena who would earn her trust immediately without raising suspicions. Is it more likely they worked at the arena or pretended to or was it someone she knew? Abusers of children are almost always someone who knows the child. This is almost the same thing. The audacity and details of the case are just so foreign to me.
intheflow
(28,505 posts)And its easy enough to imagine attractive lures or her being so scared she became mute. You are making some really weird assumptions here.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)Its so brazen and so many things had to go exactly right for her kidnappers that it almost defies the odds. Its as if they had done this before and had a routine (or inside help?) or they made a mockery of probability tables that trip up most criminals. How do people and security teams try to prevent this from happening again?
Liberal In Texas
(13,584 posts)It is possible that she met her kidnapper on some internet site. She used the opportunity to be at the American Airlines Center to slip away from her father and meet the person. Surveillance video shows them walking out together. And how willing was she when they got to Oklahoma City and posed for pictures? Granted, a 15 year old cannot consent to do these things. But she might have been complicit.
And people here blaming local police should ask where the FBI was in all this. This was an interstate kidnapping, I thought that was federal jurisdiction.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)Jesus! This is disgusting!
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)My friend in Christ, you're being very weird about this.
JanMichael
(24,894 posts)And her stupid dad and that anti-trafficking group fuck ed up her diabolical enterprise where they were kidnapping adult men to be gimps for bitcoins?
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)dumb? What's your point with your claims that its so unlikely?
Ever had a gun pointed at you?
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)In my mind, its crazy that anyone would willingly walk out of that arena if someone was pointing a gun at them because my mind tells me I have a better chance of surviving with a crowd of witnesses than in some unknown place with no witnesses. Its also mind-boggling to me how someone could have removed an incapacitated body from the arena.
Of course people often do not think or act rationally in extreme circumstances. Maybe she did have a gun pointed at her but that makes me wonder how the kidnapper got a gun in the arena in the first place. Did they use an unmonitored service entrance?
Almost all of this lack of understanding on this matter is on me as there are not enough details of the case to help me understand how it happened. That is necessary, not for me but for others to prevent crimes of this nature on the future.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)LonePirate
(13,431 posts)We dont have enough information about what happened to make a judgment one way or another. As horrible as it was, maybe nothing could be done to prevent this in the future. Were just making guesses if we have nothing to go on. If you have ideas on how to prevent future iterations of this without knowing how it happened on the first place, please step up and share them.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)LonePirate
(13,431 posts)I have not been blaming the victim. I have repeatedly said nothing about this crime makes any sense to me. Instead of engaging in a helpful or educational dialogue, you attack me for seeking an understanding. This is not some one-off crime that could never conceivably happen again. Without knowing how it happened, how do you propose making sure it never happens again? You've been silent on that. I guess it is easier to attack an ally on this board instead of seeking a solution on a complex problem.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)And yes, I know it's not a one-off crime. It is a daily occurrence. It has been for your lifetime, and for a long time before that. But so glad you're on the case, now. Thank God for educational dialogue.
But sure. I hear you, man. If she was screaming, it would all make sense.
LeftInTX
(25,589 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,584 posts)They tаrgeted а young аdolescent.
He got this 15-yeаr-old girls аttention with whаtever he sаid.
He sаid something to her to get her аttention, аnd it persuаded her to leаve. He wаs аble to persuаde her of something becаuse she wаlked out with him.
The teen wаs seen leаving the Americаn Airlines Center, but not with her fаther, аccording to surveillаnce footаge.
https://technotrenz.com/entertainment/lawyer-for-teen-who-went-through-the-unimaginable-for-11-days-after-being-lured-from-an-nba-game-and-trafficked-criticizes-police-policy-1889012.html
She wasn't dragged out of a crowded arena kicking a screaming.
Mariana
(14,861 posts)she was groomed ahead of time and led to believe this person she left the building with was trustworthy.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)I had never heard about this before nor was I aware this was even a thing.
I'm absolutely disgusted.....
I'm going to go bug Ali Velshi on Twitter who follows me and see if we can get some amplification on this.
thesquanderer
(11,995 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,453 posts)It was something called the Texas Counter-Trafficking Initiative, which is a very new organization for such a high-profile get.
IcyPeas
(21,910 posts)Meanwhile time was slipping away. Does every state have a counter-trafficking initiative? Don't the cops have access to facial recognition software too? Mind boggling.
So glad she was located.
multigraincracker
(32,729 posts)Of those that are reported, most go unsolved. Reality is not a tv series.
Tucker08087
(621 posts)They have a knife or a gun, hide it under a jacket when others can see, but the child has seen it. They threaten the child, but also her family. They are very convincing. Many children become victims to save the people they love. They are shocked and innocent, but the perpetrators know their weaknesses. My sister and I both lived with abuse trying to save the other. We didnt save each other. We were also threatened with homelessness. When youre a kid, you dont know how these things work. You basically do what you have to do, or think you have to do. You dont scream or call out for salvation. You just accept that this is the fate of someone saving their loved ones. Her lack of reaction is fairly typical. And Im sad to say that she will never be the same. I hope with all my heart that she survives this and eventually has some kind of normal life. Many of us dont survive the damage.
Hugin
(33,222 posts)She would be forced to carry it to term by bills pending in several states. Including TX. Thanks to the Alito SCrOTUS.
Scrivener7
(51,025 posts)sick responses I have seen in a very long time.