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In It to Win It

(8,283 posts)
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:12 PM May 2022

The Supreme Court Makes Ted Cruz A Half-Million Dollars Richer

I thought this was a good explainer

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In a 6-3 decision, the Supreme Court ruled Monday that Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) can now hit up donors to help pay himself back for the $555,000 he loaned to his campaigns in 2012 and 2018.

Cruz won the ability to recoup his loans with political donor money after the court ruled that a 2002 campaign finance law creates an unconstitutional burden on freedom of speech. That law prohibits candidates from raising up to $250,000 in post-election contributions to repay loans made during a federal political campaign.

The court’s decision could create a new way for political candidates to finance their campaigns through personal loans that would be paid back later by donors. That could also enable politicians to personally make money on their campaigns by charging interest on loans later repaid by donors. And it could also signal a further weakening of the already teetering edifice of campaign finance regulation.

But in the immediate term, the court’s decision will allow one candidate ― Cruz ― to raise money from rich donors and political action committees to repay the more than half-million dollars he loaned to his two Senate campaigns.

The case of Federal Election Commission v. Ted Cruz for Senate emerged in the final days of Cruz’s reelection campaign in 2018 against Democrat Beto O’Rourke. Cruz loaned his campaign $260,000, choosing this amount on purpose because it was $10,000 over the limit on post-election fundraising aimed at paying off personal loans. His intention in making the loan was to challenge this limit in court. And by winning he will not only get to recoup the $10,000 over the limit he loaned himself, but also another $545,000 he loaned his campaign in 2012 and hasn’t recouped.

The $250,000 limit on post-election fundraising to repay loans was enacted as part of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002 ― more popularly known as McCain-Feingold after its lead Senate sponsors. The law allows candidates to pay off loans with money raised pre-election, but only if they do so within 20 days after the election.

The justification for these limitations is that post-election contributions to a candidate, particularly a winning candidate, to help them repay a loan present an increased potential for corruption or the appearance of corruption because “when a campaign uses a contribution to repay the candidate’s loan, every dollar given by the contributor ultimately goes into the candidate’s pocket,” the Justice Department argued in a brief to the court.

“A post-election contributor also usually will know whether the recipient of the contribution has prevailed in the election,” the DOJ brief continues. “The contributor therefore can know ― rather than merely hope ― that the recipient will be in a position to do him official favors.”
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The Supreme Court Makes Ted Cruz A Half-Million Dollars Richer (Original Post) In It to Win It May 2022 OP
With interest? underpants May 2022 #1
If there is any interest it is set by FEC regulations. former9thward May 2022 #2
Yeah sure, a lot of NOT independently wealthy candidates loan themselves $500k. Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #5
Does the FEC require proof that the loan actually occurred? LonePirate May 2022 #9
I'm sure there would need to be a paper trail upon any investigation. Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #10
As a former candidate I can tell you yes. proof is required for all financials by the FEC. former9thward May 2022 #11
I was asked about twenty years ago by the State party to run for Congress. former9thward May 2022 #12
So you had 10 grand to piss away on a race you know you couldn't win? Ok. Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #13
Yes, keyboard warriors know so much about practical politics. former9thward May 2022 #14
I think you need to look up the definition of practical. Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #15
Leading the way cilla4progress May 2022 #3
Is this retroactive? BSdetect May 2022 #4
Sounds like it. He deliberately overstepped the limit to kill the rule/law. Hassin Bin Sober May 2022 #6
Legislating even when he's in the minority In It to Win It May 2022 #8
Kick dalton99a May 2022 #7
Because... everyone loves Ted Cruz Blue Owl May 2022 #16
seems like open corruption RussBLib May 2022 #17
nope In It to Win It May 2022 #18

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
2. If there is any interest it is set by FEC regulations.
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:34 PM
May 2022

It can't be higher than the standard rate of interest being charged by commercial banks for that type of loan at the time the loan is given.

https://www.fec.gov/regulations/100-52/2021-annual-100#100-52

So no one is "getting rich". They are simply getting their own money back -- at least some of it. Probably half or more of candidates from both parties loan their own campaigns at least some money. If this was not allowed then only independently wealthy candidates could start a campaign.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,342 posts)
5. Yeah sure, a lot of NOT independently wealthy candidates loan themselves $500k.
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:49 PM
May 2022

In fact, I may kick off my presidential campaign with a $10 million dollar loan from myself.

Is there anything stopping weasels like Cruz loaning themselves all their campaign funds for a couple years at retail interest rates? Sounds like a hell of a good investment - especially if it’s backed by campaign funds parked in the bank earning savings rates.

LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
9. Does the FEC require proof that the loan actually occurred?
Mon May 16, 2022, 01:01 PM
May 2022

Or can someone say they loaned their campaign some money, the campaign files a report saying they received the loan but no documentation such as a bank transfer or canceled check is presented to the FEC to prove it actually occurred? If no proof is needed, then the door was opened to massive political corruption and profiteering here.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,342 posts)
10. I'm sure there would need to be a paper trail upon any investigation.
Mon May 16, 2022, 01:12 PM
May 2022

My question is would the loan have to be necessary?

former9thward

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11. As a former candidate I can tell you yes. proof is required for all financials by the FEC.
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
May 2022

I was filing reports three years after my campaign.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)
12. I was asked about twenty years ago by the State party to run for Congress.
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:16 PM
May 2022

It was going to be a suicide campaign since no one could actually win in the district against the incumbent but they wanted the ballot position filled. The Party and no one except my local circle of friends and associates was going to give me any money to get started because the race could not be won. I was not independently wealthy but I loaned my campaign $10,000 to get started. Without that it would have been useless. That was enough to get some media interviews and a little coverage. I got about $2,000 of my loan back. The rest was considered a bad debt by the FEC.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,342 posts)
13. So you had 10 grand to piss away on a race you know you couldn't win? Ok.
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:24 PM
May 2022

Not sure why you are bringing this up. Remember, we are talking about amounts over $250k. The law, until struck down by the loons on the court, exempted the first $250k. But that wasn’t good enough for Fat Dracula.

You should have gone after the Illinois Republican Party for the dough.

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