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Joinfortmill

(14,479 posts)
Thu May 19, 2022, 11:56 AM May 2022

I'm done...I don't care who the fuck you are... No more!

https://www.rawstory.com/roeper-school-birmingham/

Racist lesson labeling Obama as a 'primate' handed out to Michigan students

"Administrators at the Roeper School, the oldest K-12 school for gifted children in the country, are investigating the materials, which were described as "an introduction to primates" but included photos of Obama, the nation's first Black president, reported WJBK-TV...

On behalf of Roeper School’s leadership," read the letter, "I would like to acknowledge the disturbing racial offense contained in this worksheet and sincerely regret its use and the harm it has caused."

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I'm done...I don't care who the fuck you are... No more! (Original Post) Joinfortmill May 2022 OP
If the teacher did this thinking he/she wasn't going to get fired for it, Aristus May 2022 #1
It is a failure of the entire community DBoon May 2022 #12
That is one dumb ass teacher to be teaching gifted children. Emile May 2022 #2
as a parent who has had kids in gifted programs in a few states, I know demigoddess May 2022 #54
I saw the same. yardwork May 2022 #76
This is a private school for gifted children Effete Snob May 2022 #92
not necessarily, gifted kids can be exhausting. demigoddess May 2022 #99
Humans are primates. Darwins_Retriever May 2022 #3
I wonder if the teacher will say, as a defence, but its biologically true. SYFROYH May 2022 #5
That is no defense, it is clearly an offense, it is meant to offend a USA President, otherwise the Escurumbele May 2022 #51
Which is why it was in a lesson plan published by Duke University Effete Snob May 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem May 2022 #11
Probably Effete Snob May 2022 #13
+1, unfortunately. n/t femmedem May 2022 #15
Spot on. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #30
The school was founded by Jewish refugees from Nazism Effete Snob May 2022 #32
And it's already got people going strong here. No surprise. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #36
Closed due to threats Effete Snob May 2022 #39
Wayback Machine gwenwren May 2022 #38
The Wayback Machine is hit or miss Effete Snob May 2022 #42
Lesson Plan First Published? gwenwren May 2022 #63
The school is in Michigan Effete Snob May 2022 #67
"Reverse CRT" Effete Snob May 2022 #70
where else did it end up? gwenwren May 2022 #80
I saw the date 2008 on the bottom of the page, but my eyesight is poor femmedem May 2022 #72
thank you!! gwenwren May 2022 #74
Obama did not become POTUS until January 20th, 2009 Celerity May 2022 #43
And yet, for some reason... Effete Snob May 2022 #44
Whose mission? Celerity May 2022 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem May 2022 #65
Oh please-- Richard58 May 2022 #48
Obama wasn't president in 2008. Mr.Bill May 2022 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem May 2022 #64
here is a snapshot of the actual question Celerity May 2022 #46
So he was the president elect? Even if well-intentioned, this was a lapse in judgement. yardwork May 2022 #78
I was wrong about Obama being president elect. femmedem May 2022 #83
I see. Well, this was a huge lapse of judgment on many people's part. yardwork May 2022 #91
I'd want to know when the materials were posted. Igel May 2022 #102
Yes, There's Gotta Be RobinA May 2022 #34
In an academic/scientific context, there are not "various races" of humans. Eyeball_Kid May 2022 #57
Again: there is ONE HUMAN RACE: Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Look it up. n/t Eyeball_Kid May 2022 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork May 2022 #77
Grooming Racists bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
It came from a Duke University lesson plan, btw Effete Snob May 2022 #6
The Republicans and FOX would have a field day if the PXR-5 May 2022 #8
I live in Michigan Novara May 2022 #9
The lesson plan didn't come from Michigan Effete Snob May 2022 #16
But a Michigan teacher used it, thinking that it was OK Novara May 2022 #21
Teachers all over the country have used it Effete Snob May 2022 #23
However, THIS story is about a Michigan teacher Novara May 2022 #25
Very clear Effete Snob May 2022 #26
That makes it even more egregious Novara May 2022 #29
The school is closed due to threats Effete Snob May 2022 #37
Wow, you're really missing what that poster is trying to tell you. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #40
Sent all over ... but reacted to only once/ gwenwren May 2022 #85
That was the point Effete Snob May 2022 #89
Everyone reading this post is a primate vlyons May 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author femmedem May 2022 #14
Yup. GoCubsGo May 2022 #17
The teacher didn't choose it Effete Snob May 2022 #19
Nonsense I don't care what the lesson plan was vlyons May 2022 #31
Duke didn't take it down to "avoid a torch-bearing mob." GoCubsGo May 2022 #33
the work of 2 undergrads gwenwren May 2022 #94
thank you. stopdiggin May 2022 #97
To the apologists in this thread:how odd of you, in a country where the first Black president's wife Hekate May 2022 #18
Ah, the "apologists" accusation Effete Snob May 2022 #22
I addressed the people in the thread who were optimistic that no offense was intended. Did not Hekate May 2022 #24
It's the "you know who" at work again Effete Snob May 2022 #27
School closed due to threats Effete Snob May 2022 #35
Thank you, Effete Snob. femmedem May 2022 #66
. Effete Snob May 2022 #68
Thanks for the history lesson! femmedem May 2022 #69
You keep citing Duke as if ecstatic May 2022 #81
Because people keep assuming the teacher was the author Effete Snob May 2022 #84
True, but did the teacher review the lesson before diving in? ecstatic May 2022 #90
Nice reply. RaDaR63 May 2022 #100
👍 Joinfortmill May 2022 #71
+1000. nt ecstatic May 2022 #79
+1. It's a well known and long-standing racist trope, FFS. demmiblue May 2022 #82
there will always be people llashram May 2022 #93
I guess this is what they want to teach instead of CRT. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #20
Does that frequently happen with institutions founded by Jewish refugees from Nazism? Effete Snob May 2022 #28
I doubt you're going to get through to the outrage posse here. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #41
I can see how this can be misinterpreted as racist. Gore1FL May 2022 #47
Enough of the Racism. I've heard the same disgusting term used for Desmond Tutu as well. clementine613 May 2022 #50
I doubt anyone is going to get that Effete Snob May 2022 #52
It's racist and disgusting. clementine613 May 2022 #55
I don't know whether you think you are being funny or not Effete Snob May 2022 #60
No, not being funny. clementine613 May 2022 #62
The lesson was using it in the biological sense - Ms. Toad May 2022 #98
Racism is so not gifted. dchill May 2022 #53
more 'quality' reporting from Raw Story ... -(nt)- stopdiggin May 2022 #56
Legitimate apes peppertree May 2022 #59
When it's a legitimate ape, the whole body politic shuts down. I WISH. Hekate May 2022 #87
DUzy! peppertree May 2022 #88
we are all 'apes' stopdiggin May 2022 #96
As long as there was more than one photo, it was accurate Warpy May 2022 #61
Do we KNOW anything about this teacher, perchance? Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #73
and a pretty decent one stopdiggin May 2022 #95
I can't even! WTF?! yardwork May 2022 #75
Not only am I a Primate, maxsolomon May 2022 #86
So I guess they're not primates. I've long suspected . . . skip fox May 2022 #101

Aristus

(66,478 posts)
1. If the teacher did this thinking he/she wasn't going to get fired for it,
Thu May 19, 2022, 11:58 AM
May 2022

then it's a school failure.

I think measures need to be taken...

DBoon

(22,401 posts)
12. It is a failure of the entire community
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:30 PM
May 2022

I suspect many white parents thought this was hilarious

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
54. as a parent who has had kids in gifted programs in a few states, I know
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
May 2022

that they usually assign the stupid teachers to gifted classes. Reasons 1. nepotism. 2. they think it works ok that way. 3. to hold the smart kids back.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
92. This is a private school for gifted children
Thu May 19, 2022, 09:37 PM
May 2022

So, it seems a bit odd that the entire school is designed to hold back all of the students in it.

Seems like the parents would catch on and find another private school.

demigoddess

(6,645 posts)
99. not necessarily, gifted kids can be exhausting.
Sat May 21, 2022, 06:21 PM
May 2022

in my case they were holding the kids back so they didn't have to provide additional books. Messing up their system!!

Escurumbele

(3,406 posts)
51. That is no defense, it is clearly an offense, it is meant to offend a USA President, otherwise the
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

teacher could have added a photo of the real buffoon, trump.

Response to Effete Snob (Reply #7)

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
13. Probably
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:30 PM
May 2022

But it is unlikely anyone reading and reacting is going to care what were the actual facts.
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
32. The school was founded by Jewish refugees from Nazism
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:09 PM
May 2022

They founded the school precisely to stand against bigotry, and it is a core principle of what the school was about.

But, by leaving out that this was a lesson plan from Duke which has been widely used in the first place, it is a great way to stir up the social media mob to go after the you-know-who.
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
42. The Wayback Machine is hit or miss
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

It is not a good tool for figuring out when something may have first been published.

That is the first date it was cached by the Wayback Machine. That's all that means.

gwenwren

(7 posts)
63. Lesson Plan First Published?
Thu May 19, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

femdem cites no sources for when lesson plan first published. 2016 is a date with references. If it is earlier I would like to know how much earlier... eventually to find out who at Duke University is responsible? Jane Goodall, Charles Darwin and Barack Obama are the examples for human primates. WTF??
The lesson plan's test questions with answers were published around 2015... so who put this thing together?? Since it was used by Michigan school that is an example of Reverse CRT CRT.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
67. The school is in Michigan
Thu May 19, 2022, 04:02 PM
May 2022

But it is not a "Michigan school" if you mean to suggest it is a public school.

It is a school founded by Jewish refugees from Nazism:


https://www.roeper.org/about/diversity-equity-inclusion-and-justice

In 1941, after being forced to flee their home in Germany, George and Annemarie Roeper moved to Michigan and founded The Roeper School. At a time when the Nazis were shattering democratic systems across Europe, the Roepers understood they could not be silent. As religious refugees from totalitarianism, the Roepers experienced firsthand the consuming power of hate, bigotry, and prejudice that forced them into exile. They established The Roeper School as a place where students could develop their voices and stand against authoritarian injustice, a place where human rights would be held in esteem, and where a commitment to humanism would shape the community that needed to be built.

-------

This is a "Jewish Progressives are really racists" wedge being eagerly accepted at face value.




It is precisely the sort of institution that MAGAts would like to destroy.

But, instead, they are allowing useful idiots to go after it.

It's a brilliant two-fer - have a bunch of half-informed folks on social media go after the liberal Joo school.

They are closed today due to threats. Mission accomplished.
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
70. "Reverse CRT"
Thu May 19, 2022, 04:11 PM
May 2022

You know, you could take a moment to learn something about the people you are attacking.

This is not the typical board resolution of a "reverse CRT" culture:

https://roeper.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/1006/download/download_7427156.pdf


Roeper Board Anti-Racism Resolution

Preamble

In 1941, after being forced to flee their home in Germany, George and Annemarie Roeper moved
to Michigan and founded The Roeper School. At a time when the Nazis were shattering
democratic systems across Europe, the Roepers understood they could not be silent. As religious
refugees from totalitarianism, the Roepers experienced firsthand the consuming power of hate,
bigotry, and prejudice that forced them into exile. They established The Roeper School as a
place where students could develop their voices and stand against authoritarian injustice, a place
where human rights would be held in esteem, and where a commitment to humanism would
shape the community that needed to be built.

For almost 80 years, The Roeper School has stood as an institution whose foundation is built on
social justice, dignity, and the worth of every individual. Our history, philosophy, and mission
call on us to speak with clarity and purpose when we see hatred and intolerance being given
voice and strength. We know that we cannot be bystanders; we know that racism cannot stand
unanswered; we know that there is work to be done to address the injustices of today and
systemic wrongs that have remained in place for generations.

This resolution is not merely a statement of beliefs, but it also is a statement that holds us
accountable to ourselves and to the community. Our children are watching, and we are called
upon as an educational institution to model for them what it means to be a diverse, equitable, and
inclusive community committed to justice. Today, we use our voice to stand as anti-racists, as
allies, and as leaders committed to guiding future generations toward the interdependent
community George and Annemarie called on us to build.

The Roeper School Board of Trustees Anti-Racism Resolution

The Roeper School Board of Trustees hereby consents to and approves the resolutions set forth
below at a regular meeting of the Board on the 24th day of May, 2021.

WHEREAS Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice are the foundation of the Roeper
Philosophy;


WHEREAS the Roeper Philosophy and Core Tenets include a commitment to justice
rather than power and to making equal human rights for all people a priority;



WHEREAS The Roeper School is committed to provide each student with a welcoming,
respectful, inclusive, and culturally affirming environment for learning and success;

WHEREAS the ongoing social justice issues across our country, including the killings of
Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC), have had a profound impact on our
past and present students, faculty, staff, administrators, trustees, and families at The
Roeper School;


WHEREAS we choose to speak out in response to recent and historic national and local
events that have called attention to racist attitudes, racist actions, societal race-based
disparities, and other forms of systemic and institutional racism that have persisted for
centuries;

WHEREAS we recognize our own position of privilege and acknowledge our own
history of, whether conscious or unconscious, participation in systems in our community,
that are built on oppression and include racist practices;

WHEREAS this unique historic moment in our country’s evolution presents an
opportunity and a challenge for all of us to be part of creating a more just educational
community for BIPOC students, faculty, staff, administrators, trustees, and families
within The Roeper School community;

WHEREAS we recognize that race is an important part of our identities, and we are
responsible for nurturing anti-racist learning environments where all students, faculty,
staff, administrators, trustees, and families are respected and valued for who they are
regardless of culture, race, or ethnicity; and

WHEREAS we believe that an accurate understanding of the past is necessary to build a
successful vision of the future. We cannot value BIPOC lives without: (i) teaching their
history, (ii) recognizing the contributions of BIPOC leaders, and (iii) celebrating the
sacrifices and achievements they have made throughout the history of our School and of
this country.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that we believe Black lives matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we believe Indigenous lives matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we believe the lives of People of Color matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we condemn all forms of bullying, microaggressions, hate
speech, and violence.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we condemn all forms of discrimination (unlawful or
otherwise), systemic racism, and manifestations of expressions of racism, xenophobia,
and ethnic or racial intolerance.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we resolutely stand, and will speak out, against all hate,
bias, racism, and crimes of violence, and will commit to actively work toward becoming
an anti-racist institution and toward dismantling the systems that promote racism.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we expect the School’s partners, contracted businesses,
and other vendors to support inclusive practices and work to eradicate racist behaviors,
and we expect the School to make decisions around who they do business with to reflect
such commitments.


RESOLVED FURTHER that we will adopt policies regarding the creation and
performance of curriculum review processes to ensure that our curriculum incorporates
historically accurate portrayals and perspectives of Black, Indigenous, and People of
Color.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we will foster an anti-racist culture and take significant
steps to further racial equity within our school, departments, and buildings.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to regularly examine the School’s policies and
practices to remove obstacles and barriers that may contribute to systemic inequities.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to increase the accessibility of a Roeper
education for traditionally marginalized groups, including specifically BIPOC students.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to ensure that each student is valued,
supported, and academically challenged by the School regardless of race, ethnicity, or
culture.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we expect and will support ongoing professional
development opportunities for faculty, staff, and trustees that focus on combating
systemic and institutional racism and further develop the attitudes, skills, and beliefs that
are necessary to support all students and their families.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to foster a school environment that promotes
respect for, and curiosity about, all cultures and affirms equal human rights for all our
community members.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to ensure that student achievement will not fall
into predictable patterns identified by race, ethnicity, or culture and commit to ensure that
each student will have access to personalized learning opportunities that honor the
student’s unique background to promote a sense of belonging.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we pledge to amplify diverse voices, listening to the
concerns they share and the aspirations they bring, as we create and adjust our School
governance practices and policies.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to create a process that integrates equity into
all decision-making, board policy review, and adoption processes, including an annual
review of policies on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice.

This resolution was adopted by The Roeper School Board of Trustees on May 24th, 2021, by
unanimous approval.

---------------------------

Yeah, sounds like a regular KKK meeting.

gwenwren

(7 posts)
80. where else did it end up?
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:26 PM
May 2022

Not atacking anyone... I am asking questions about it originating in Duke University... who wrote it? who edited it? who vetted it? how was it funded? Who developed it? Who promoted it? Critical race theory as in Derek Bell studies how racism is institutionalized esp. in law. This lesson plan is an example of this in our anti-CRT political climate.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
72. I saw the date 2008 on the bottom of the page, but my eyesight is poor
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:53 PM
May 2022

and I didn't see that 2008 referred to the photograph, not the document itself, until I saw your post and increased the size of the font. I've removed those posts, and I thank you for the correction.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
44. And yet, for some reason...
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:49 PM
May 2022

...he was fairly well known and popular before that date, particularly among the Jewish-progressive-leaning demographic of this private school founded by refugees from Nazism.

But, hey, mission accomplished. The school is closed due to threats today.

Celerity

(43,585 posts)
45. Whose mission?
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:53 PM
May 2022
And yet, for some reason.....he was fairly well known and popular before that date


My reply had nothing to do with that, its was a simple date correction.

Response to Celerity (Reply #43)

Richard58

(239 posts)
48. Oh please--
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:18 PM
May 2022

I think you are giving them too much credit. You honestly think that the teacher was so naive that he/she didn't realize that one of the many insults given to Blacks was that they were monkeys? Come on! I think this teacher knew exactly what he/she was doing! But was going to use the excuse, "But all humans are primates! I don't see the problem."

Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #49)

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
83. I was wrong about Obama being president elect.
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:37 PM
May 2022

I saw 2008 in small print on the bottom of the sample page but until I zoomed in I didn't realize that the year referred to the photo, not the entire document.

Igel

(35,362 posts)
102. I'd want to know when the materials were posted.
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:42 PM
May 2022

Some things are reinterpreted because they're out of temporal context.

If I were doing this today, I might use Biden as an example.

If in 2018, Trump.

If in 2014, Obama.

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
34. Yes, There's Gotta Be
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:29 PM
May 2022

a generic human they could have used. Maybe the person was young and didn't understand the problem? It seems like a dumb thing to do, even if you are a racist.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
57. In an academic/scientific context, there are not "various races" of humans.
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:48 PM
May 2022

There is only one surviving "race" of humans: Homo Sapiens Sapiens. Period.

Skin color does NOT define racial differences. We are all of the same human race. Homo Sapiens Sapiens.

In fact, pretending that humans are divided into separate races is by itself a racist assertion. It encourages bigotry and overgeneralization and misinformed opinions. The differences attributed to skin color or skin tone are really ones of physical appearance, cosmetics and culture.

Response to Darwins_Retriever (Reply #3)

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
16. The lesson plan didn't come from Michigan
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:35 PM
May 2022

It came from Duke University. It is widely used, and was published by their biology department.

It was here:

https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf

There are archival sites (such as the Google cache) where it can still be found.

Novara

(5,856 posts)
21. But a Michigan teacher used it, thinking that it was OK
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:52 PM
May 2022

I mean, WTF?

Birmingham is a mostly blue city. I hope reaction is severe.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
23. Teachers all over the country have used it
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:53 PM
May 2022

That is why it has been published by Duke University for so long.

Novara

(5,856 posts)
25. However, THIS story is about a Michigan teacher
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:58 PM
May 2022

Thus, my reaction as a citizen of this stupid state. The school that made the news over it is in my state, so my reaction is because I live in this state (which embarrasses me constantly with the stupidity found here). You know, the one that was pointed out in the story. That's why I am commenting on THIS story in regards to THIS state.

Clear?

It seems you are arguing a point I'm not making.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
26. Very clear
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:01 PM
May 2022

Look at the kind of people who run this school:

https://roeper.myschoolapp.com/ftpimages/1006/download/download_7427156.pdf

Roeper Board Anti-Racism Resolution

Preamble

In 1941, after being forced to flee their home in Germany, George and Annemarie Roeper moved
to Michigan and founded The Roeper School. At a time when the Nazis were shattering
democratic systems across Europe, the Roepers understood they could not be silent. As religious
refugees from totalitarianism, the Roepers experienced firsthand the consuming power of hate,
bigotry, and prejudice that forced them into exile. They established The Roeper School as a
place where students could develop their voices and stand against authoritarian injustice, a place
where human rights would be held in esteem, and where a commitment to humanism would
shape the community that needed to be built.

For almost 80 years, The Roeper School has stood as an institution whose foundation is built on
social justice, dignity, and the worth of every individual. Our history, philosophy, and mission
call on us to speak with clarity and purpose when we see hatred and intolerance being given
voice and strength. We know that we cannot be bystanders; we know that racism cannot stand
unanswered; we know that there is work to be done to address the injustices of today and
systemic wrongs that have remained in place for generations.

This resolution is not merely a statement of beliefs, but it also is a statement that holds us
accountable to ourselves and to the community. Our children are watching, and we are called
upon as an educational institution to model for them what it means to be a diverse, equitable, and
inclusive community committed to justice. Today, we use our voice to stand as anti-racists, as
allies, and as leaders committed to guiding future generations toward the interdependent
community George and Annemarie called on us to build.

The Roeper School Board of Trustees Anti-Racism Resolution

The Roeper School Board of Trustees hereby consents to and approves the resolutions set forth
below at a regular meeting of the Board on the 24th day of May, 2021.

WHEREAS Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice are the foundation of the Roeper
Philosophy;

WHEREAS the Roeper Philosophy and Core Tenets include a commitment to justice
rather than power and to making equal human rights for all people a priority;

WHEREAS The Roeper School is committed to provide each student with a welcoming,
respectful, inclusive, and culturally affirming environment for learning and success;
WHEREAS the ongoing social justice issues across our country, including the killings of
Black, Indigenous, and People of Color (BIPOC), have had a profound impact on our
past and present students, faculty, staff, administrators, trustees, and families at The
Roeper School;


WHEREAS we choose to speak out in response to recent and historic national and local
events that have called attention to racist attitudes, racist actions, societal race-based
disparities, and other forms of systemic and institutional racism that have persisted for
centuries;

WHEREAS we recognize our own position of privilege and acknowledge our own
history of, whether conscious or unconscious, participation in systems in our community,
that are built on oppression and include racist practices;

WHEREAS this unique historic moment in our country’s evolution presents an
opportunity and a challenge for all of us to be part of creating a more just educational
community for BIPOC students, faculty, staff, administrators, trustees, and families
within The Roeper School community;

WHEREAS we recognize that race is an important part of our identities, and we are
responsible for nurturing anti-racist learning environments where all students, faculty,
staff, administrators, trustees, and families are respected and valued for who they are
regardless of culture, race, or ethnicity; and

WHEREAS we believe that an accurate understanding of the past is necessary to build a
successful vision of the future. We cannot value BIPOC lives without: (i) teaching their
history, (ii) recognizing the contributions of BIPOC leaders, and (iii) celebrating the
sacrifices and achievements they have made throughout the history of our School and of
this country.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that we believe Black lives matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we believe Indigenous lives matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we believe the lives of People of Color matter.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we condemn all forms of bullying, microaggressions, hate
speech, and violence.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we condemn all forms of discrimination (unlawful or
otherwise), systemic racism, and manifestations of expressions of racism, xenophobia,
and ethnic or racial intolerance.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we resolutely stand, and will speak out, against all hate,
bias, racism, and crimes of violence, and will commit to actively work toward becoming
an anti-racist institution and toward dismantling the systems that promote racism.
RESOLVED FURTHER that we expect the School’s partners, contracted businesses,
and other vendors to support inclusive practices and work to eradicate racist behaviors,
and we expect the School to make decisions around who they do business with to reflect
such commitments.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we will adopt policies regarding the creation and
performance of curriculum review processes to ensure that our curriculum incorporates
historically accurate portrayals and perspectives of Black, Indigenous, and People of
Color.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we will foster an anti-racist culture and take significant
steps to further racial equity within our school, departments, and buildings.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to regularly examine the School’s policies and
practices to remove obstacles and barriers that may contribute to systemic inequities.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to increase the accessibility of a Roeper
education for traditionally marginalized groups, including specifically BIPOC students.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to ensure that each student is valued,
supported, and academically challenged by the School regardless of race, ethnicity, or
culture.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we expect and will support ongoing professional
development opportunities for faculty, staff, and trustees that focus on combating
systemic and institutional racism and further develop the attitudes, skills, and beliefs that
are necessary to support all students and their families.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to foster a school environment that promotes
respect for, and curiosity about, all cultures and affirms equal human rights for all our
community members.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to ensure that student achievement will not fall
into predictable patterns identified by race, ethnicity, or culture and commit to ensure that
each student will have access to personalized learning opportunities that honor the
student’s unique background to promote a sense of belonging.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we pledge to amplify diverse voices, listening to the
concerns they share and the aspirations they bring, as we create and adjust our School
governance practices and policies.

RESOLVED FURTHER that we commit to create a process that integrates equity into
all decision-making, board policy review, and adoption processes, including an annual
review of policies on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice.

This resolution was adopted by The Roeper School Board of Trustees on May 24th, 2021, by
unanimous approval.

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Fucking assholes.

Novara

(5,856 posts)
29. That makes it even more egregious
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:05 PM
May 2022

My best friend used to live in Birmingham and I always thought the city was rather progressive (so did she).

But idiots and racists are everywhere.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
40. Wow, you're really missing what that poster is trying to tell you.
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:35 PM
May 2022

Can’t let anything get in the way of outrage I reckon.

gwenwren

(7 posts)
85. Sent all over ... but reacted to only once/
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:42 PM
May 2022

You can't back up this claim that "teachers all over the country have used it." There would have been newsworthy outrage all over the country before this.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
89. That was the point
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:24 PM
May 2022

It was downloadable course material published by Duke:



That’s why it still shows up in Google.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
10. Everyone reading this post is a primate
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:26 PM
May 2022

I think we are also in the great ape family. But that was probably not the intent of that teacher. Calling Obama a primate was meant as a slur. To be a valid biology lesson, it would have been better to say that all humans are in the order primates, which also includes lemurs, lorises, tarsiers, monkeys, apes, and humans.

I hope that teacher gets disciplined.

Response to vlyons (Reply #10)

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
17. Yup.
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:41 PM
May 2022

A generic line drawing of a human would have more than sufficed to get the point across. The teacher chose to use a photo of a specific individual. I have no doubt he/she meant it as a slur.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
19. The teacher didn't choose it
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

The teacher used a highly regarded lesson plan published by Duke University. Duke has taken it down in order to avoid the stupid torchbearing mob:



https://evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/sites/evolutionaryanthropology.duke.edu/files/file-attachments/lesson-plans-introduction-to-primates.pdf

It started with this question as a "pre-lesson survey" (taken from the Google cache)




The "photo credits" make it clear what was there:



But, as primates reacting to a perceived threat, you can see the behavior of humans to partial information which they do not bother to investigate in order to form a hostile troop.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
31. Nonsense I don't care what the lesson plan was
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:07 PM
May 2022

The teacher should have used much better judgement.

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
33. Duke didn't take it down to "avoid a torch-bearing mob."
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:16 PM
May 2022

They took it down because they knew they had fucked up using that image. GMAFB. As for the teacher, they could have changed it out. Problem solved.

gwenwren

(7 posts)
94. the work of 2 undergrads
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:39 PM
May 2022

A matter of record that: It was not highly regarded. Not used by teachers all over the country. Not published by Duke. The work of 2 students who posted on their department's website, probably so they could joint edit it. Duke was unaware it existed until the uproar.
The most likely scenario is that the teacher wanted a lesson plan, looked online and found it. Downloaded it without even reading it. That is what is most likely.

stopdiggin

(11,387 posts)
97. thank you.
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:30 PM
May 2022

facts are always nice things to have around.

Given the context - the school, the curriculum, the teacher, the students - it seems highly unlikely that this was intended as a fat racist smear. But we do like us some good fandango!

Hekate

(90,858 posts)
18. To the apologists in this thread:how odd of you, in a country where the first Black president's wife
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:46 PM
May 2022

… was referred to as “an ape in high heels,” to not see that this “lesson plan” was as racist as hell.

If the creator of this abomination really wanted to show a human being as an example of primates, they should have picked someone outstandingly white. If they wanted a president, why not George Washington? If they wanted a random person, I just saw a photo of a little girl who was so blond she was practically albino at the Bans off Our Bodies protests. She’s a primate.

In a country where Black people get called apes and monkeys as a deadly insult — no, just no. Not as the sole example. Line up random photos of all manner of humans, from all continents and all races and say, see, this is our common heritage, we are all humans and all primates.


 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
22. Ah, the "apologists" accusation
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:52 PM
May 2022

A teacher in Michigan downloaded a lesson plan published by Duke University and used for years since 2008.

Rather than attack that teacher, or Michigan (as one post above), why not actually figure out with whom the responsibility rests, before lashing out at people.

But, sure, digging into the facts and actually finding additional detailed information about the story makes one an "apologist" for racism, because it is better to remain uninformed than to actually get to the bottom of what happened.

Ignorance is bliss.

Yeah, fuck that teacher! Fuck that school! Let's destroy someone's life!

Hekate

(90,858 posts)
24. I addressed the people in the thread who were optimistic that no offense was intended. Did not
Thu May 19, 2022, 12:58 PM
May 2022

… suggest destroying someone’s life. Did I?

Remind me again why we usually don’t interact. Have a nice day.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
27. It's the "you know who" at work again
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:02 PM
May 2022

You might want to learn something about the school:

https://www.roeper.org/about/diversity-equity-inclusion-and-justice

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Roeper Board Anti-Racism Resolution

Preamble

In 1941, after being forced to flee their home in Germany, George and Annemarie Roeper moved
to Michigan and founded The Roeper School. At a time when the Nazis were shattering
democratic systems across Europe, the Roepers understood they could not be silent. As religious
refugees from totalitarianism, the Roepers experienced firsthand the consuming power of hate,
bigotry, and prejudice that forced them into exile. They established The Roeper School as a
place where students could develop their voices and stand against authoritarian injustice, a place
where human rights would be held in esteem, and where a commitment to humanism would
shape the community that needed to be built.


For almost 80 years, The Roeper School has stood as an institution whose foundation is built on
social justice, dignity, and the worth of every individual. Our history, philosophy, and mission
call on us to speak with clarity and purpose when we see hatred and intolerance being given
voice and strength. We know that we cannot be bystanders; we know that racism cannot stand
unanswered; we know that there is work to be done to address the injustices of today and
systemic wrongs that have remained in place for generations.


-----

That's why they need to be attacked.

It couldn't be a misunderstanding over an image of a popular figure in 2008 being included as a representative human to make the point that all humans are primates.

It had to be racism. That is the only explanation.

And, by omitting the full factual picture, it is a convenient way to whip up sentiment to go after a school founded by Jewish refugees precisely to stand against bigotry.

It would be great to have a conversation without snide personal comments, but I realize that is difficult for some.

femmedem

(8,208 posts)
66. Thank you, Effete Snob.
Thu May 19, 2022, 04:00 PM
May 2022

I just spent a year and a half putting together a Black Heritage Trail in the city where I live, so it's loads of fun to pop onto DU at the end of my workday and see that I'm being called an apologist for racists here. I appreciate your sticking up for me.

Also I love your username.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
68. .
Thu May 19, 2022, 04:04 PM
May 2022
https://politicaldictionary.com/words/effete-snobs/

“Effete snobs” was a phrase used by Vice President Spiro Agnew to denounce anti-war protesters, and young intellectuals in general, during the Vietnam era. The phrase quickly caught on and was adopted as a slogan by the anti-war movement.

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Amazingly, I get a lot of flack on DU over the name, from the cadre here who I guess is STILL pro-Vietnam-war.

ecstatic

(32,740 posts)
81. You keep citing Duke as if
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:33 PM
May 2022

that automatically makes it OK. No. It doesn't. I don't know the author's intent--it might have been an honest mistake or temporary lapse of judgment. Everyone makes mistakes, nobody is perfect--not even individuals who work for (or attended) prestigious universities. In a situation like this, it's best to listen to the feedback and grow rather than to continue digging deeper.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
84. Because people keep assuming the teacher was the author
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:39 PM
May 2022

"I don't know the author's intent"

Okay, but you are already a step removed from the teacher and the school at that point.

ecstatic

(32,740 posts)
90. True, but did the teacher review the lesson before diving in?
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:40 PM
May 2022

Or did she and the entire class see the material for the first time together?? I know people have busy lives but even if I were a slacker and didn't see the lesson until I was in the middle of teaching class, I would figure out a way to quickly get the handout back or take the file offline. I'd tell them there was an error and to hold off until I got back to them.

 

RaDaR63

(89 posts)
100. Nice reply.
Sat May 21, 2022, 07:11 PM
May 2022

👍
Some people seem to be on some kind of mission. Being reasonable and applying common sense don't seem to be compatible with that mission.

demmiblue

(36,903 posts)
82. +1. It's a well known and long-standing racist trope, FFS.
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:37 PM
May 2022


Some of the people defending it... totally not surprised.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
93. there will always be people
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:30 AM
May 2022

who are apologists for people who do harm to others based on race, culture etc. That is ONE of the reasons racism has lasted so long and by the way, will never entirely go away. Too many people who could call a FLOTUS "an ape in high heels" while giving a pass to a FLOTUS who never measured up one iota to that FLOTUS in high heels mentioned are out there who voted for a pig like a loser like 45.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
28. Does that frequently happen with institutions founded by Jewish refugees from Nazism?
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

Who is "they" in your sentence. This is a private school founded by Jews who wanted to take a stand against bigotry:

https://www.roeper.org/about/diversity-equity-inclusion-and-justice

In 1941, after being forced to flee their home in Germany, George and Annemarie Roeper moved to Michigan and founded The Roeper School. At a time when the Nazis were shattering democratic systems across Europe, the Roepers understood they could not be silent. As religious refugees from totalitarianism, the Roepers experienced firsthand the consuming power of hate, bigotry, and prejudice that forced them into exile. They established The Roeper School as a place where students could develop their voices and stand against authoritarian injustice, a place where human rights would be held in esteem, and where a commitment to humanism would shape the community that needed to be built.

Click the link below to continue reading and to read the full resolution.
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
41. I doubt you're going to get through to the outrage posse here.
Thu May 19, 2022, 01:38 PM
May 2022

Your posts have made it clear whence that lesson plan came, but no one seems to want to hear it.

Not surprising.

Gore1FL

(21,156 posts)
47. I can see how this can be misinterpreted as racist.
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:10 PM
May 2022

It doesn't really seem to be the point, though, based on the further information provided in this thread.

I'm not offended about being a primate, an ape, or a descendent of fish, myself, and don't consider it a slur when it is pointed out.

clementine613

(561 posts)
50. Enough of the Racism. I've heard the same disgusting term used for Desmond Tutu as well.
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:33 PM
May 2022

Is there any low that the Rethugs won't sink to?

clementine613

(561 posts)
55. It's racist and disgusting.
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:37 PM
May 2022

The fact that the dictionary is in on it doesn't make it any better. The word should be retired unless referring to actual animals (or humans biologically as a whole).

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
60. I don't know whether you think you are being funny or not
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:56 PM
May 2022

But use of the word "primate" to refer to a leading bishop doesn't have anything to do with the anthropological sense of the word.

The fact that Tutu has been dead for quite some time really required you to dig this one out of cold storage.

https://www.episcopalct.org/news/remembering-the-most-reverend-desmond-tutu/

We have awakened today to the news of the death of the Most Rev. Desmond Mpilo Tutu, former Archbishop of Cape Town and Primate of the Anglican Church of Southern Africa.


It's the official title of the office.

Ms. Toad

(34,114 posts)
98. The lesson was using it in the biological sense -
Sat May 21, 2022, 03:07 AM
May 2022

Many people, including apparently many on DU apparently don't know that humans are part of a larger group of animals known as primates. The worksheet was part of an introduction to primates - using examples of animals which are - and are not - primates.

The same people who believe that creationism should be taught as science are the ones I would expect to be outraged at the suggestion that humans are primates.

Should the lesson have been revised to use a photo of a generic human? Absolutely. BUT the lesson was being used to teach an important biological concept.

stopdiggin

(11,387 posts)
96. we are all 'apes'
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:23 PM
May 2022

(primates by classification) Which is something that I would hope that higher level students would already be familiar with ... The 'context' here is not nearly as incendiary - as Raw Story might like to make it?

Warpy

(111,374 posts)
61. As long as there was more than one photo, it was accurate
Thu May 19, 2022, 02:59 PM
May 2022

We are all primates Our closest relatives are chimps and bonobos, we split off from a common ancestor about 6,000,000 years ago In fact, a partial skeleton from exactly that period has been found, a tree dweller that walked fully upright on the ground.

https://www.britannica.com/animal/Orrorin-tugenensis

And for black readers who have been stung by some ignorant snot who called them monkeys, consider a factoid from zoo vets. If you shave a chimpanzee or other great ape (usually for surgery), you get a colder, pissed off creature with exposed white skin. Yes, under their fur coats the other great apes are white. Only their exposed skin contains melanin. Just keep that in mind when you confront people who are stuck on skin color as the only important thing about a person.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
73. Do we KNOW anything about this teacher, perchance?
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:01 PM
May 2022

What if it turns the teacher is a Black, Lesbian, Jewish woman who's grandparents died at the Nazi's hands, and who graduated from Duke (where the lesson plan came from), with impeccable Liberal/Democratic credentials and a distinguished teaching history ... who made an honest mistake by copying an old lesson plan from her alma mater, assuming it was long ago vetted and judged to be 'okay'?

What would we say then?

Obviously that's unlikely, but I mean ... shouldn't we at least maybe wait to find out a little more about the teacher ... before we all come collectively unglued over this?

As opposed to immediately buying into whatever RawStory's spin on the subject is?

Just a thought

stopdiggin

(11,387 posts)
95. and a pretty decent one
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:14 PM
May 2022

but it seems one that a lot of us are unwilling to advance.
(the particulars on this case - very progressive school, curriculum, advanced students, etc. - would tend to 'lead' in a slightly different direction. could be wrong, of course - but it seems like it might be worth some 'investigation.' with, somewhat predictably - very little being delivered in the article)

But it was a thought ... ------ --- -----

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