Two armed men in cars shot each other to death in a Kansas grocery store parking lot after one...

[tenderfoot]

of the men “made a demeaning comment about the other man’s loud exhaust pipe.”

The Lawrence Police Department says detectives continue to investigate the deaths of two men who were shot in the Hy-Vee parking lot on Tuesday evening.

LPD said the two victims of the shooting have been identified as Zachary Michael Sutton, 22, and Monty Ray Amick, 53, both of Lawrence.

Detectives said they believe the initial interaction between the two victims happened near 23rd St. and Harper. They said both vehicles traveled west on 23rd where a confrontation occurred near 23rd and Iowa.

Chief Rich Lockhart said Amick had made a demeaning comment about the Ford’s loud exhaust pipe. He said the drivers then continued to exchange words until they reached the Hy-Vee parking lot. He said that is when Sutton stepped out of the truck and fired a gun. Amick returned fire and both had sustained gunshot wounds.

Sutton was pronounced dead at the scene and Amick was rushed to a hospital in Overland Park where he was pronounced dead by hospital staff.

https://www.wibw.com/2022/05/18/lawrence-police-identify-victims-double-fatal-shooting-hy-vee-parking-lot/

[pnwest]

1. Thinning the herd...

[lapfog_1]

2. having grown up in Overland Park

and attended KU in Lawrence...

"rushed to a hospital in Overland Park" from being shot at 23rd and Iowa in Lawrence - makes absolutely no sense to me... Overland Park is a 30 minute drive.

[Emile]

17. Every bit of 30 minutes. I use to drive and deliver at both towns.

Maybe they used a helicopter?

[lastlib]

43. I used to live near there when I attended KU.

[lapfog_1]

54. I lived just south of that intersection when I attended college

but in Overland Park...when I was a foolish teen... and driving with my buddies late on a Friday night... we saw this car on the freeway, it was a car that had been sawed in half just behind the drivers seat and a different car welded to the front end. They hadn't even tried to match body styles and it wasn't painted yet. Worse it that it was a "convertible" meaning the owner hacked off the top.

Being 17 my friends and I pointed and start laughing at the junk car... the passenger pulled out a handgun and started waving it at us and yelling. We exited the freeway and got the hell away from these assholes.

Don't know what would happen today... I suppose they would have shot at us.

[chowder66]

55. Yeah that struck me as weird too. I'm originally from KC and drove to KU

to see my boyfriends and some bands from time to time. The only thing I can think of is that they don't have a trauma team that could deal with him.

And aha!

When three men suffered gunshot wounds Sunday in a residence along West 19th Terrace in Lawrence, they weren’t taken to Lawrence Memorial Hospital.

Instead they were taken by air and ground ambulances to Kansas City-area hospitals, a frequent occurrence when people suffer traumatic injuries in the Lawrence area. For LMH, given its proximity to other hospitals with more resources for treating those injuries, it’s the plan that makes the most sense, said Dr. Caleb Trent, the medical director for Lawrence-Douglas County Fire Medical.

A year ago, Lawrence Memorial Hospital obtained its designation as a Level 4 trauma center. That means it can provide advanced life support for those with traumatic injuries prior to transferring patients to a facility with a higher classification.

“We’re located between a Level 2 in Topeka (Stormont-Vail HealthCare) and a Level 1 in Kansas City (Kansas University Hospital),” Trent said. “And so part of it is, it doesn’t necessarily make sense for us as a hospital to provide (that kind of care).”

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2015/feb/11/flying-trauma-patients-other-hospitals-plan-works/

[Demovictory9]

3. Two fewer hot headed knuckle heads in the world

RIP

[thomski64]

5. thank gaawd..

.. they could exercize their gaawd given 2nd amendmunt rats

[Captain Zero]

19. two more guns gone as well and one loud muffler

The guy who complained about the muffler probably was right.

[HubertHeaver]

4. We need a song.

Gunfight at the Hy-Vee Car Park.

[nicoj36]

6. Bad Republicans

Wish Republicans didn't encourage crimes with misinformations and conspiracies that crimes aren't being punished.

[panader0]

37. Welcome to DU.

[winstars]

7. And the bad part of this story is???? Two less assholes in this world!!!

[Buns_of_Fire]

8. Couldn't wish for a happier ending to a tragic story.

I know. I'm going to hell for thinking that.

[littlemissmartypants]

9. Good news...

Your buns have a head start...

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

10. Must have been...

two good guys with guns??

[North Shore Chicago]

11. Two down....

(fill in the blank) more to go.

[Demovictory9]

12. here two men shoot at each other at close range and live

[Gore1FL]

48. That's nuts on so many levels. nt

[Kaleva]

13. I wonder if the 53 y/o would have acted tough had he been unarmed?

The younger man, Sutton, was one of 3 passengers in the Ford F-150 pickup along with the driver. Amick was the sole occupant of the 2007 Blue Nissan Xterra but he decides to get into a pissing contest with a group of 4.

[Demobrat]

14. Good job guys.

Two assholes less in the world, and no innocent bystanders were harmed.

Excellent shooting.

[hatrack]

15. Guess he showed him! Also, guess he showed him!

Nice shootin', cowboys.

[Captain Zero]

20. they just bought the guns, haven't done target practice yet

seems like they should have got one free lesson anyway.

[hlthe2b]

16. I guess "hell" for them will be a realm where they are both sent & where NO GUNS are allowed.

what a pathetic pair.

[exboyfil]

18. An armed society is a polite society

Right?

[HAB911]

22. ++++++++++

[Ilsa]

35. You beat me to it. nt

[HAB911]

21. an armed society is a polite society

[Novara]

23. Darwin award winners!

[MissMillie]

41. certainly candidates (n/t)

.

[doc03]

24. Not to change the subject but back in my day you

got a ticket for a loud exhaust, apparently there are no such laws today. We have a lot of out of state pipeliners and drillers around here, they have pickups with loud exhausts and somehow they can make a cloud of smoke so bad you have pull off the road.
Total assholes Texas, Louisiana, Oklahama, North Dakota plates on all. They go out of their way to be assholes.

[exboyfil]

28. Same a_holes that modify their trucks

to roll coal (give off an aerosol of diesel fumes).

[Deuce]

29. Yes...

[doc03]

31. Yep they will open them up when they go thru a

residential area or if you get behind them. I think the loud exhaust came from bikers. They opposed helmet laws yet claim the loud exhaust was for safety. Now the cops don't enforce the laws for anyone. Back in the 60s when I was a teenager you were pulled over in a second for glass packs.
It's a badge of honor to be public asshole today. It's a society of Karens.

[Doc Sportello]

30. My thoughts exactly

These assholes with no mufflers, or just loud exhausts and whatever it is sports car drivers add that causes noise levels to go through the roof when they floor it for maximum rpms are everywhere. They scare children and animals, not to mention us old folks. Then you throw in the asshole motorcyclists with loud exhausts and music playing at full volume and it is a common occurence these days. I have no doubt they are MAGAts and they are all, everyone of them, an asshole. But most are probably proud of that. Rant over.

[GoCubsGo]

25. But, but Chicago....

[BlackSkimmer]

46. But what? Those deaths don't count?

Here ya go, since you were asking. This was yesterday:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10836885/Two-dead-eight-injured-shooting-outside-McDonalds-Chicago.html

[GoCubsGo]

49. Chicago is the right wing gun violence whipping boy.

And, they they'll beat on that, like you are doing, while ignoring the explosion of incidents in "red" places, such as in the OP. That's what.

[BlackSkimmer]

50. Funny how we never see these kind of threads about one idiot shooting another in the cities with the

most gun violence.

An "explosion" of incidents in red places you say...so what do you call the ongoing gun violence in blue areas? Philadelphia has outstripped Chicago by this time now, I believe.

Are we to ignore that? Does it not count? Why do we find it amusing when Elmer shoots Goober, but not the daily shootings elsewhere? The city nearest me has about 4 a week, and that's a conservative estimate. And it's not Elmer and Goober shooting each other.

So who is ignoring what?

[GoCubsGo]

52. I'm not saying it doesn't count.

I'm just fucking sick of the Chicago bashing. Good day.

[onethatcares]

26. need to have Len Greenwood blasting

in the background..

[LeftInTX]

53. If it's caught on camera, someone needs to make a video!

[HipChick]

27. Well, that sure solved everything...

[sinkingfeeling]

32. Aw, the beauty of every person being armed with a gun.

[0rganism]

33. Is it too much to hope that they haven't reproduced yet?

The 53 yo seems a long shot but the 22 yo might still be in his nascent incel phase.

[Hortensis]

39. Wondering at least about that always pops in among my first thoughts.

[Ilsa]

34. Phew! Two fewer "I'm insecure about my manhood" fellows

for the rest of us to worry about. Too bad first responders had to deal with it.

I really thought I was going to read that this happened in Texas. (Lived there many years.)

[Liberal In Texas]

36. It's the Wild Wild West.

Just what the RW wants. A return to the 19th century.

[USALiberal]

38. Without conceal and carry this was a fistfight but now it's two people dead. Nt

[madville]

40. Depends on the state laws

Many states don’t apply concealed carry laws to vehicles, a person’s home or their place of business. I would bet anyone that can legally own a gun can also have it in their vehicle in KS whether they have a concealed carry license or not. Here in Florida anyone can have a loaded gun in their vehicle, it just has to be in a closed container of some type (zippered bag, glove compartment, center console, snapped holster, etc).

[KY_EnviroGuy]

42. These guys forgot to stop and discuss the impacts of a shootout on their families.

Doesn't right-wing talk radio talk about that issue in depth each day?......

[Samrob]

44. Which one was the "good guy with a gun?" nt

[RussBLib]

45. just another day in America

solving disputes with firearms.

Hopefully I can stay out of the crossfire.

[milestogo]

47. Well, that's settled then.

[LeftInTX]

51. Yheee-haw!!!

[H2O Man]

56. I hope they are both okay.