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Mr. Sparkle

(2,937 posts)
Fri May 20, 2022, 06:50 AM May 2022

Howard Dean Calls for 'Boycott' of Fox News and Deportation of Murdoch Family: 'They Are the Enemy'

Howard Dean said on MSNBC Thursday that Americans should “boycott” Fox News and primetime host Tucker Carlson. He also said he believes the entire Murdoch family should be deported. Dean joined The Beat with Host Ari Melber. The duo blamed Fox News for last week’s racially-motivated mass shooting in Buffalo, New York. They also discussed the “great replacement theory,” which Carlson has endorsed.

Melber reminded Dean Fox CEO Lachlan Murdoch said Wednesday the network’s viewers see the it more as “an America media brand” than “news.” Dean reacted to the comment by calling for the Murdochs to be deported. He also accused Fox News of “murder.” “I see the brand of Fox being hate, anger, dishonesty and now murder,” he said. “That’s the brand, that’s the brand that the Murdochs have chosen to be their flagship.” Dean added,

[Rupert Murdoch] has harmed this country more than any other human being in my lifetime, and he and his family should never should have been given citizenship. The one thing I would change about our immigration policy is to send Murdoch back to Australia and keep him there with the whole family.

If you cause that much trouble, you spread lies and hate and anger and tear the united States apart with your crappy TV shows, simply to make money, you do not belong, you do not deserve American citizenship.


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/howard-dean-calls-for-boycott-of-fox-news-and-deportation-of-murdoch-family-they-are-the-enemy/
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Howard Dean Calls for 'Boycott' of Fox News and Deportation of Murdoch Family: 'They Are the Enemy' (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle May 2022 OP
Totally agree! MacKasey May 2022 #1
Biden should publicly invite Murdoch to the White House Funtatlaguy May 2022 #2
IMO, Murdoch is both a nihilist and a media czar. no_hypocrisy May 2022 #4
Not going to happen, no way in hell. 🙄 nt Raine May 2022 #3
If the Murdochs had been cooking meth and selling their poison throughout the country, sop May 2022 #5
Howard Dean is crazy bastard lol, but he's right wildman76 May 2022 #6
A person who speaks his mind Icanthinkformyself May 2022 #7
Time to rethink 1st amendment Lucky2367 May 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #18
IMO the Ist amendment is just fine The Jungle 1 May 2022 #19
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado May 2022 #27
Absolutely not. Imagine such a policy under Trump. Dial H For Hero May 2022 #36
LOL, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #48
Great ideas whose time is coming. Perhaps not so much a "mere dream" as you think. jaxexpat May 2022 #11
Kick dalton99a May 2022 #9
Deport Theil and Musk Casady1 May 2022 #10
Democrats already boycott fox news. Republicans will not. But glad Dean is speaking out anyway. dameatball May 2022 #12
My Dad sometimes watches to get his blood boiling and he yells at the TV IronLionZion May 2022 #15
I am old too, but don't need that aggravation. The political ads are bad enough really. My remote dameatball May 2022 #17
The advertising explains who the audience is. The Jungle 1 May 2022 #21
Elected Democrats do not boycott Fox News.-- former9thward May 2022 #42
Certainly true. I can watch that interview in some other venue if I choose to. It's out there. dameatball May 2022 #45
Make sure the Murdochs don't run Fox News from Australia either IronLionZion May 2022 #13
The First Amendment doesn't protect all speech in all circumstances dlk May 2022 #14
A clear and present danger. 2naSalit May 2022 #28
The roots of domestic terrorism bucolic_frolic May 2022 #16
...K&R... spanone May 2022 #20
Under current law there is no way he can be deported. onenote May 2022 #22
+1 Dial H For Hero May 2022 #37
If it can be proven that Murdoch is deliberately working to overthrow Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2022 #23
Wouldn't take a lot of research... 2naSalit May 2022 #29
only if it was before he became a citizen treestar May 2022 #33
+1 onenote May 2022 #44
Trying to get right wing republicans elected isn't overthrowing the government onenote May 2022 #38
Realistically The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #24
yes samsingh May 2022 #25
Deportation won't do any good. It's not like the Murdochs can't run their media Texin May 2022 #26
If he is not a US citizen, then he can't own US media. wnylib May 2022 #31
US Citizenship isn't required to own and operate a cable channel. onenote May 2022 #43
Direct foreign ownership wnylib May 2022 #47
Those provisions apply to broadcast licenses not cable onenote May 2022 #49
Agree! Fox News propaganda is destroying the United States. UCmeNdc May 2022 #30
Murdoch has been crowding the plate. About time he gets a little brushback. Midnight Writer May 2022 #32
DU's been saying it for years Blue Owl May 2022 #34
I've always loved Howard Dean. mzmolly May 2022 #35
He's always been on the money. The Wizard May 2022 #39
the good... myohmy2 May 2022 #40
Serving as a platform for Putin's propaganda The Wizard May 2022 #41
Fox News is not and never has been "registered as entertainment" onenote May 2022 #50
I'm With Dean on This One pressbox69 May 2022 #46

Funtatlaguy

(10,885 posts)
2. Biden should publicly invite Murdoch to the White House
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:04 AM
May 2022

and ask him what his end game is.
Is it just money or does he also want to destroy our democracy.
Take him on directly and publicize what he said or if he turns down the meeting.

no_hypocrisy

(46,157 posts)
4. IMO, Murdoch is both a nihilist and a media czar.
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:11 AM
May 2022

Look at his record in the U.K. and Australia. The institution of the monarchy has been his target since he bought his first newspaper. He's used his media to attack, to erode confidence, to antagonize the Royals (not that he's needed much help lately).

When Murdoch got a foothold in the U.S. with Reagan, same thing: to erode confidence in American democracy and the institutions of government.

The money's nice. The power is more seductive.

sop

(10,227 posts)
5. If the Murdochs had been cooking meth and selling their poison throughout the country,
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:17 AM
May 2022

they would have been shut down long ago. Unfotunately, the 1st Amendment has become a suicide pact, and the Murdochs' poison is constitutionally protected speech.

Icanthinkformyself

(220 posts)
7. A person who speaks his mind
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:43 AM
May 2022

Dean has always been willing to say things without mealy mouthing it. We need more Dean type Democrats. Counter Republican lies with brutal honesty. We should deport the Murdochs and the assets of News Corp should be considered proceeds from criminal activities (accessary to murder) liquidated and the proceeds used to feed the hungry, house the homeless and provide a base income to millions of people. All billionaires should be taxed out of existence. A dream, I know.

 

Lucky2367

(4 posts)
8. Time to rethink 1st amendment
Fri May 20, 2022, 07:50 AM
May 2022

tRump started this. Time to redefine 1st amendment. Disinformation board was a good start. I don’t trust news sources unless the (democrat) government approves

Response to Lucky2367 (Reply #8)

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
19. IMO the Ist amendment is just fine
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:51 AM
May 2022

Yelling fire in that theater is not fine.
He is clearly causing Americans to die. Arrest him.

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
12. Democrats already boycott fox news. Republicans will not. But glad Dean is speaking out anyway.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:07 AM
May 2022

I doubt I have watched an hour of actual fox news in the past few years. However, I see tons of clips on other networks, FSTV, MSNBC, CNN, local news broadcasts, even on DU here and there. It is pretty hard to escape really.

DO many DUers really watch much fox news? I guess so, in order to know one's enemy, but I generally let someone else do that crappy job.

I would love to see the Murdoch's gone, but even if that unlikely event would happen I doubt the network would be gone with them.

IronLionZion

(45,496 posts)
15. My Dad sometimes watches to get his blood boiling and he yells at the TV
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:21 AM
May 2022

It might be an old people thing. They like to watch or listen to things that make them mad for some reason.

dameatball

(7,399 posts)
17. I am old too, but don't need that aggravation. The political ads are bad enough really. My remote
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:38 AM
May 2022

gets a workout sometimes.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
21. The advertising explains who the audience is.
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:55 AM
May 2022

The evening news has one pill ad after the other. Because the audience is me. An old fart.

former9thward

(32,064 posts)
42. Elected Democrats do not boycott Fox News.--
Sat May 21, 2022, 12:13 AM
May 2022

Elected Democrats and high ranking appointees appear on Fox News everyday.

IronLionZion

(45,496 posts)
13. Make sure the Murdochs don't run Fox News from Australia either
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:16 AM
May 2022

because they don't have to actually live here to be a problem

I'd like to reform RW hate radio too, and do something about social media misinformation/disinformation. I just saw some nonsense with the Buffalo shooter's face and complete lies saying his parents saw the FBI trying to convince him to do a mass shooting. All lies. They just make stuff up and put it on an image and share it.

dlk

(11,574 posts)
14. The First Amendment doesn't protect all speech in all circumstances
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:20 AM
May 2022

Rupert Murdoch is a clear threat to our democracy. His media empire is tearing our country apart.

bucolic_frolic

(43,252 posts)
16. The roots of domestic terrorism
Fri May 20, 2022, 08:26 AM
May 2022

began with ideas. That's the link, but in a court of law causality is elusive.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
22. Under current law there is no way he can be deported.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:01 AM
May 2022

He's a citizen. And there is no basis under current law under which he could be denaturalized.

Want to defeat Murdoch? Do it at the ballot box. There are millions more people who don't watch Fox than those who do.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
23. If it can be proven that Murdoch is deliberately working to overthrow
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:15 AM
May 2022

the US government, he can be denaturalized, and deported.

Heck, seems to me that any half decent prosecutor should be able to prove that about Murdoch.

2naSalit

(86,748 posts)
29. Wouldn't take a lot of research...
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:51 AM
May 2022

To come up with proof that this was his intent for decades, actually. When I heard about it back in the 1990s, I didn't think he'd be able to accomplish his goal. Now it looks like he needs to be shut down completely and banished from interacting with the world.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. only if it was before he became a citizen
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:32 PM
May 2022

the only way to undo naturalization is to nullify from the beginning, as in a person who lied saying they were not a Nazi and turned out to be. He'd have had to lie by saying he did not intend to overthrow the US government, and be proven that he intended that all along - very tough to do.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
38. Trying to get right wing republicans elected isn't overthrowing the government
Fri May 20, 2022, 10:47 PM
May 2022

And you can’t seriously think he started planing January 6 more than 25 years ago.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
26. Deportation won't do any good. It's not like the Murdochs can't run their media
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:32 AM
May 2022

empire abroad. Hell, most of their media outlets are outside this country.

wnylib

(21,562 posts)
31. If he is not a US citizen, then he can't own US media.
Fri May 20, 2022, 09:57 AM
May 2022

That's why he became a citizen in the first place, to own American media.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
49. Those provisions apply to broadcast licenses not cable
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:00 AM
May 2022

Last edited Sat May 21, 2022, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Murdoch needed us citizenship to hold licenses for over the air stations. He didn’t-and doesn't- need us citizenship to own and operate Fox News or his other non-broadcast cable networks (which aren’t licensed by the FCC).

Midnight Writer

(21,780 posts)
32. Murdoch has been crowding the plate. About time he gets a little brushback.
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:30 PM
May 2022

Republicans scream "Lock Them Up!" a million times a day to sway public opinion.

No reason we can't point out their perfidy in emphatic terms.

The Wizard

(12,546 posts)
39. He's always been on the money.
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:25 PM
May 2022

He scares the establishment because he speaks to the issues directly. Remember when he said capturing Saddam Hussein didn't make us safer.

The Wizard

(12,546 posts)
41. Serving as a platform for Putin's propaganda
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:35 PM
May 2022

is over the line. They have to be sanctioned for pretending to be news, yet registered as entertainment. Wasn't Carlson's defense of a civil suit "People don't tune in to Tucker Carlson for the truth." Stephen Colbert is more honest than Carlson, and he's a much better entertainer and commentator than the troll Tucker Carlson. Q and the alternate fact weirdos watch Carlson like he's the oracle of all truth.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
50. Fox News is not and never has been "registered as entertainment"
Sat May 21, 2022, 12:03 PM
May 2022

Apparently it doesn't matter how many times this myth is debunked, it eventually reappears on DU.

https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/fact-checking-a-claim-that-fox-news?s=r

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