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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,190 posts)
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:37 PM May 2022

Republicans vow to kill domestic terrorism bill in Senate

Senate Republicans are lining up against a House-passed bill that would authorize special offices within the government to investigate and monitor domestic terrorism, which is being pushed in the wake of a racist shooting in Buffalo that left 10 people dead.

The GOP compares the proposal, which sets up offices in the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Justice and the FBI to target domestic terrorism, to the recently paused disinformation board set up by the Biden administration.

“It sounds terrible,” Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) of the House-passed bill, predicting it won’t get 10 Republicans in the Senate.

“It’s like the disinformation board on steroids. Another way to look at is the Patriot Act for American citizens,” he added, referring to the law passed immediately after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that expanded the government’s power to monitor phone and email conversations and collect bank records.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-vow-kill-domestic-terrorism-094204909.html

Not surprised Nazi pretty boy Hawley doesn't like it.

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Republicans vow to kill domestic terrorism bill in Senate (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 OP
Nazis won't vote against nazis. It would hurt their brand. spanone May 2022 #1
This! calimary May 2022 #12
Takes Not Seeing Eyes... unweird May 2022 #25
Seems logical. Turbineguy May 2022 #2
"Republicans Aid Terrorists In Senate, Shield Killers", Sir The Magistrate May 2022 #3
We really need to educate the electorate KS Toronado May 2022 #8
In other words --- madamesilverspurs May 2022 #4
Traitors must be removed from Congress. SheltieLover May 2022 #5
because they like domestic terrorism so much, elleng May 2022 #6
Tradition. GOP fired US gov experts on RW hate in 2009. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #7
everyone one of these llashram May 2022 #11
White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement Kid Berwyn May 2022 #31
yes llashram May 2022 #35
Rebel The Wombat Celerity May 2022 #24
Marsupials don't betray their mobs. Somehow, he doesn't look loyal. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #32
Has that changed in the last 11 years? The article is from June 7, 2011 Celerity May 2022 #33
LA Times link works for me. Kid Berwyn May 2022 #34
It sounds terrible, Josh? gratuitous May 2022 #9
They see no need to vote against a law to curb right wing terrorists. patphil May 2022 #10
They want more January 6ths, and don't want any new laws to scare people away from doing that. C Moon May 2022 #13
WE NEED MORE DEMOCRATS IN THE SENATE New Breed Leader May 2022 #14
More obstructionism from the obstructionists. lpbk2713 May 2022 #15
Because they are the domestic terrorist ... Lovie777 May 2022 #16
The best criminals don't break the law, they make the laws. Irish_Dem May 2022 #17
They don't want to lose voters who support domestic terrorism IronLionZion May 2022 #18
Criminals don't want the stinkin' cops looking into their business. OMGWTF May 2022 #19
They can't win without their base. twodogsbarking May 2022 #20
The GOP is protecting its base of white supremacist LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #21
Republicans have been fomenting this for years. Mr. Evil May 2022 #22
It's "the Patriot Act for Americans..." Grins May 2022 #23
Been there. Courtesy of "the usual suspects." Grins May 2022 #26
Of course MissMillie May 2022 #27
I'm by no means clairvoyant.... SergeStorms May 2022 #28
Falls right in line with those lambchopp59 May 2022 #29
Democrats need to be hammering this every time someone asks them a question Novara May 2022 #30
"Republicans are fine with racial massacres. They will do nothing to stop the next one." LiberalLovinLug May 2022 #39
I'd hardly call Hawley a pretty boy geardaddy May 2022 #36
Next to Gaetz and Jordan he's Donny fricken Osmond LiberalLovinLug May 2022 #40
They admit it...they know exactly who their voting base is Bengus81 May 2022 #37
Republicans don't want this bill because it will likely uncover Republican terrorists. hadEnuf May 2022 #38
They are fascists and they don't care who knows it. Martin68 May 2022 #41
The civil rights era laws of the 60's would not have passed in this racist ea. alphafemale May 2022 #42
Republicans support most domestic terrorism DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #43

calimary

(81,457 posts)
12. This!
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:53 PM
May 2022

Last edited Sun May 22, 2022, 03:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Why would they willingly disarm?

One thing though. I draw the line at “Nazi pretty boy Hawley.” “Nazi” yes. “Pretty boy”? NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!!!!!

The Magistrate

(95,255 posts)
3. "Republicans Aid Terrorists In Senate, Shield Killers", Sir
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

Would be the campaign ads, if our people had some idea how this game is really played,

What other reason but support for terrorists is there for such opposition?

They just don't want the armed wing of their party investigated and curbed.

It really is that simple.

KS Toronado

(17,316 posts)
8. We really need to educate the electorate
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:20 PM
May 2022

about everything Rs have been voting against, this is the latest one.

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
7. Tradition. GOP fired US gov experts on RW hate in 2009.
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:06 PM
May 2022
Why We Don't Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists

Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them in 2009



Why Don’t We Know Much About Right-Wing Terrorists?

Conservatives Fired The Guy Studying Them


JAMESON PARKER
AddictingInfo, JUNE 18, 2015 4:41 PM

After a mass shooting at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, left nine people dead and a right-wing white supremacist arrested, the country once again faces the uneasy question of just how many so-called “home-grown” terrorists are out there – heavily armed, ideologically driven, and violent.

It’s a good question, but it may be tough to answer because for reasons that are astoundingly dimwitted, the Department of Homeland Security pushed out the guy who was in charge of watching them, and dismantled his team all the way back in 2009.

The beleaguered hero of this story is Daryl Johnson, a top government counterterrorism analyst working at Homeland Security who spent six years with the agency amassing a wealth of data on far-right extremist groups that posed various degrees of threat to citizens in the United States. In 2009, in the months after President Obama assumed office, he watched as these groups veered even further right, and began to fear that America’s first African-American president could be the catalyst of a major uptick in hate crimes and anti-government attacks.

In a landmark report released just months into Obama’s term, and now looks downright clairvoyant, Johnson made the case that radical Islam is only a small piece of the terrorism pie:

“Do not overlook other types of terrorist groups,” the report warned, noting that five purely domestic groups had considered using weapons of mass destruction in that period. Similar warnings have been issued by the two principal non-government groups that track domestic terrorism: the New York-based Anti-Defamation League and the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

An annual tally by the latter group of what it calls “Terror From the Right” listed 13 major incidents and arrests last year, nearly double the annual number in previous years; the group also reported the number of hate groups had topped 1,000 in 2010, for the first time in at least two decades.


In response to that report, Johnson was destroyed. It wasn’t his integrity or claims that got him in trouble, his facts were solid. Instead, it was the inconvenient truth that much of the threat comes from right-wing conservatives, and even more awkwardly, radical right-wing conservatives who say and think a lot of the same things mainstream right-wing conservatives say and think.

CONTINUED w/links...

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

That was from 2015.

Internet Archive Waybac, if link doesn’t work:

http://web.archive.org/web/20150910045015/http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/18/why-dont-we-know-much-about-right-wing-terrorists-conservatives-fired-the-guy-studying-them/

llashram

(6,265 posts)
11. everyone one of these
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:49 PM
May 2022

white nationalists are an army for the RW and they are threatening us with great civil unrest and they must be put down...hard. Even the self-hating Clarence Thomas ilk...

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
31. White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement
Sun May 22, 2022, 08:10 PM
May 2022

FBI would, if they could. A little-read FBI report from 2006...

White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement

http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/402521/doc-26-white-supremacist-infiltration.pdf

This is a powder keg in a dumpster fire outside a munitions warehouse. We need fire fighters for democracy.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
35. yes
Mon May 23, 2022, 10:45 AM
May 2022

I remember this one and the military bears' scrutiny also. Although given the numbers involved, not so widespread I imagine. But what the hell do I know...

Kid Berwyn

(14,953 posts)
32. Marsupials don't betray their mobs. Somehow, he doesn't look loyal.
Sun May 22, 2022, 08:25 PM
May 2022
More on why we don’t know much about them…

Homeland Security Department curtails home-grown terror analysis

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post, June 7, 2011

The Department of Homeland Security has stepped back for the past two years from conducting its own intelligence and analysis of home-grown extremism, according to current and former department officials, even though law enforcement and civil rights experts have warned of rising extremist threats.

The department has cut the number of personnel studying domestic terrorism unrelated to Islam, canceled numerous state and local law enforcement briefings, and held up dissemination of nearly a dozen reports on extremist groups, the officials and others said.

The decision to reduce the department’s role was provoked by conservative criticism of an intelligence report on “Rightwing Extremism” issued four months into the Obama administration, the officials said. The report warned that the poor economy and Obama’s election could stir “violent radicalization,” but it was pilloried as an attack on conservative ideologies, including opponents of abortion and immigration.

In the two years since, the officials said, the analytical unit that produced that report has been effectively eviscerated. Much of its work — including a digest of domestic terror incidents and the distribution of definitions for terms such as “white supremacist” and “Christian Identity” — has been blocked.

Multiple current and former law enforcement officials who have regularly viewed DHS analyses said the department had not reported in depth on any domestic extremist groups since 2009.

“Strategic bulletins have been minimal, since that incident,” said Mike Sena, an intelligence official in California who presides over the National Fusion Center Association, a group of 72 federally chartered institutions in which state, local and federal officials share sensitive information. “Having analytical staff, to educate line officers on the extremists, is critical.…This is definitely one area” where more effort is warranted by DHS.

CONTINUED...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/homeland-security-department-curtails-home-grown-terror-analysis/2011/06/02/AGQEaDLH_story.html

I can understand not wanting to give these rats publicity, but when the government and the rats work together to protect the rich turds who benefit from the rats, there's a problem -- and The System.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. It sounds terrible, Josh?
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:23 PM
May 2022

As terrible as some racist asshole driving 200 miles to target a grocery store and killing a random 10 people luckless enough to exist in his rage? Because that's pretty terrible, too, and maybe something to avoid, don't you think?

patphil

(6,206 posts)
10. They see no need to vote against a law to curb right wing terrorists.
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:26 PM
May 2022

Those guys are effectively working for the Republicans; so the Republican legislators "have their backs".

Trump's "good people"...his brown shirts.

Irish_Dem

(47,375 posts)
17. The best criminals don't break the law, they make the laws.
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:59 PM
May 2022

Criminals don't want their criminal behavior deemed illegal.

Mr. Evil

(2,856 posts)
22. Republicans have been fomenting this for years.
Sun May 22, 2022, 03:48 PM
May 2022

Lax as can be on responsible gun laws.
Refusing any reasonable, rational legislation for any issue.
Preaching anger and fear through multiple media outlets on a daily basis.
Actively trying to overthrow the government.
To republicans these people aren't domestic terrorists or just their base, They're their army.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
23. It's "the Patriot Act for Americans..."
Sun May 22, 2022, 03:51 PM
May 2022
”Another way to look at is the Patriot Act for American citizens.” - Missouri traitor, Hawley.

The Patriot Act was all yours, butt-wipe.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
26. Been there. Courtesy of "the usual suspects."
Sun May 22, 2022, 04:04 PM
May 2022

April 2009, federal intelligence officials issued a warning to police departments around the country about “Right-wing extremists.”

April 2009, “that man” was in the White House. For about 11-weeks.

And so the Reich-wing, AGAIN, lost its mind. And here we are…

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
28. I'm by no means clairvoyant....
Sun May 22, 2022, 04:26 PM
May 2022

but I foresaw this the moment it barely passed the House along party lines.

Hey, maybe it am clairvoyant. I'm going to go buy lottery tickets now.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
29. Falls right in line with those
Sun May 22, 2022, 04:33 PM
May 2022

Who "whitewash" an angry mob showing up at the capitol with a noose display screaming "hang Mike Pence"
as a docile group of tourists.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
30. Democrats need to be hammering this every time someone asks them a question
Sun May 22, 2022, 05:54 PM
May 2022

They need to put it in their ads. They need to keep screaming about this. It isn't enough to say general shit like republicans vote against everything; this shit needs to be spelled out so the public knows exactly what damage they're doing to the country.

"Republicans are fine with racial massacres. They will do nothing to stop the next one."

Is it that hard to say?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
39. "Republicans are fine with racial massacres. They will do nothing to stop the next one."
Mon May 23, 2022, 03:42 PM
May 2022

Oh my lord! We'd NEVER say anything like that!

Republicans are people like you and me. They strongly condemn this....didn't you hear McConnell after? We would never accuse them of being "fine" with this. And of COURSE Republicans will still work to stop the next one, we just have different ideas of ways to combat this. They just think more guns allowed, more open carry laws, are the answer. And we have other ideas. My gawd, no! The last thing we want to be accused of is sensationalism and loosing our tempers on the camera.

hadEnuf

(2,212 posts)
38. Republicans don't want this bill because it will likely uncover Republican terrorists.
Mon May 23, 2022, 02:11 PM
May 2022

Yes, it's that simple.

Republicans support domestic terrorists.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
42. The civil rights era laws of the 60's would not have passed in this racist ea.
Mon May 23, 2022, 04:48 PM
May 2022

Not sure Brown vs the Board of Education or even Loving would make the cut in the current SCOTUS

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