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So much for the bishop who thinks he's the Pope (Original Post) bigtree May 2022 OP
The real world is nice. pwb May 2022 #1
PLEASE! elleng May 2022 #3
Holy Trinity in Georgetown, elleng May 2022 #2
Yeah I knew a kid who went there. Kingofalldems May 2022 #27
So that was all just... 2naSalit May 2022 #4
Why yes. Thankfully it was ignored by most Catholics. jimfields33 May 2022 #6
No. It was a different bishop that was getting all the right wing BComplex May 2022 #7
I was referring to the one who... 2naSalit May 2022 #8
Of course it was. wnylib May 2022 #14
He's in SF. Has no say or sway on what goes on in DC. Bishop in DC said long ago he would not deny shrike3 May 2022 #33
Another one of those great... 2naSalit May 2022 #37
Yep. shrike3 May 2022 #38
Excellent response. She was 22 at the time of Vatican II, which brought Hortensis May 2022 #5
Did he parish? C Moon May 2022 #9
I see what you did there. Beartracks May 2022 #13
Barrump bump! calimary May 2022 #15
😆 Retired Engineer Bob May 2022 #18
Recommended. H2O Man May 2022 #10
If I hadn't already quit the corrupt, hypocritical Catholic Church.. Hulk May 2022 #11
Same here. I quit 50 years ago Ritabert May 2022 #22
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix May 2022 #45
And the RW archbishop has no authority in Georgetown. :) ificandream May 2022 #12
Yes. Surprised people didn't know that. shrike3 May 2022 #34
Oh. You mean the Pope of Frisco! dchill May 2022 #16
Good for them. That's a Jesuit run church IronLionZion May 2022 #17
The right wing branch of Catholics put him and a bunch of other Tumbulu May 2022 #19
Pope Francis has replaced conservative Archbishops before IronLionZion May 2022 #20
Many people sure hope that he does Tumbulu May 2022 #31
It is, and I am too, for the same reason. soldierant May 2022 #30
Same in Pittsburgh. Tommymac May 2022 #48
So like 98% of Catholics use birth control. The Jungle 1 May 2022 #21
And IVF for infertility NickB79 May 2022 #23
No more communion for her. The Jungle 1 May 2022 #50
religion has no place in civil governance - rescind the tax exemptions, cure this bullshit bringthePaine May 2022 #24
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix May 2022 #46
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Tommymac May 2022 #49
Different diocese wryter2000 May 2022 #25
I am positive they will, yes. shrike3 May 2022 #35
The Pope himself never denies anyone Communion IcyPeas May 2022 #26
I have a container of communion wafers on top of my fridge BigmanPigman May 2022 #28
Well, unless they're consecrated, they don't mean anything. They're just wafers. shrike3 May 2022 #36
Where do you buy them? cilla4progress May 2022 #41
You can buy them on line. BigmanPigman May 2022 #42
Wow, you're the second person I've encountered who likes to eat the wafers like chips IronLionZion May 2022 #47
This is gonna be weird, but biodegradable packing peanuts are wafers in Cheeto-puff form. sir pball May 2022 #51
Pope Francis must have had a word with Father Corleone peppertree May 2022 #29
Different diocese. Bishop in SF has no jurisdiction in DC DC Bishop said long ago he would not deny shrike3 May 2022 #32
The Catholic Church becoming increasing political is one of the reasons I gradually left. halfulglas May 2022 #39
K&R for, the Inquisition was supposed to be over, "archbishop" you a-hole! UTUSN May 2022 #40
Not really relevant... brooklynite May 2022 #43
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct May 2022 #44
I would like to see the Pope pressed on this issue. riverbendviewgal May 2022 #52

elleng

(131,081 posts)
2. Holy Trinity in Georgetown,
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:47 PM
May 2022

the BEST! (Attended by Kennedys, Bidens, misc others, and the elementary school by my daughters!)

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
8. I was referring to the one who...
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:06 PM
May 2022

Refused her, not the one who wasn't being a jerk and didn't refuse.

shrike3

(3,756 posts)
33. He's in SF. Has no say or sway on what goes on in DC. Bishop in DC said long ago he would not deny
Sun May 22, 2022, 11:03 PM
May 2022

anyone communion. So, of course she'd get communion in DC. Should be no surprise to anyone.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Excellent response. She was 22 at the time of Vatican II, which brought
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:53 PM
May 2022

the church into the 20th century with greatly liberalized views, compared to before. She's lived through all the angry RW reactions in the 60 years since, and at 82 this targeted attack by a hard-core RW archbishop is nothing new to her.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
11. If I hadn't already quit the corrupt, hypocritical Catholic Church..
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:16 PM
May 2022

...this stunt would make me quit all over again.

Fucking asshole pedo-cult.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
17. Good for them. That's a Jesuit run church
Sun May 22, 2022, 02:58 PM
May 2022

Some Catholic churches are more progressive and open-minded than others. I'm disappointed in San Francisco arch bishop since it's such a liberal city

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
19. The right wing branch of Catholics put him and a bunch of other
Sun May 22, 2022, 03:09 PM
May 2022

nut job priests and bishops in the hopes of changing the culture in SF. All it did was get more of the normal Catholics to leave.

And the normal priests and laity continue to suffer.

I didn’t know the answer, I guess only the pope can do something about him? But he was imposed on our region.

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
31. Many people sure hope that he does
Sun May 22, 2022, 10:52 PM
May 2022

This is really the right wing in the Catholic world crowing like roosters. They know they have Roe slain after a 50 year fight and so now they are strutting their stuff.

There is only one solution for noisy do nothing roosters in my experience.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
48. Same in Pittsburgh.
Mon May 23, 2022, 10:40 AM
May 2022

It's how the Global Elite works - support extremely authoritarian religious leaders in progressive parishes to try to keep their flocks in line.

The bishop here closed a nearby local parish in the South Hills and merged it into another parish...of coarse the parish eliminated was extremely liberal, cared about working people and their problems, and had a liberal priest assigned to it - and the new on is Handmaiden Conservative Crazy that only cares about the unborn. (The bishop replaced the liberal priest with an extremely old school conservative authoritarian right before they announced the closing. My mom-in-law had attended that church for her whole life - she is 85 - but she left it when they replaced the liberal priest with the conservative asshat. Sad.)

SF and Pittsburgh are full of sane progressive working people who fight for their rights. Must be something in the air.



 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
21. So like 98% of Catholics use birth control.
Sun May 22, 2022, 03:26 PM
May 2022

The church says no and they do it anyway. So stop giving them communion.
Genesis 2 : 7 defines the beginning of the soul and life as not until a baby's first breath.

NickB79

(19,258 posts)
23. And IVF for infertility
Sun May 22, 2022, 03:56 PM
May 2022

One of my cousins is a devout RW Catholic, who is trying to conceive with IVF. She's apparently unaware the Catholic church explicitly forbids IVF.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
50. No more communion for her.
Mon May 23, 2022, 11:00 AM
May 2022

So they call it cafeteria style Christianity. You just pick the parts you like. Not that I am making any judgement on anyone's religion. It is a personal decision.

msfiddlestix

(7,285 posts)
46. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t
Mon May 23, 2022, 08:22 AM
May 2022


Completely Agree. I'm so beyond outraged we still tolerate this bullshit.


Separation of Church and State.

PERIOD.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
49. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!
Mon May 23, 2022, 10:46 AM
May 2022

You win the green balloon and the chocolate fish.

Of coarse, that will NEVER happen in this USA. Not with 30% of the voters wanting their church to be actively involved in politics.

Of coarse most of those folks never took a civics class so they have NO FUCKING CLUE what the Constitution and Bill of Rights says.

But they can tell you the exact date and time of the next TFG rally, or what MFG ate for lunch, or who BarbieBoebart is howling at today.

wryter2000

(46,077 posts)
25. Different diocese
Sun May 22, 2022, 05:41 PM
May 2022

I'll bet you many churches in that a-hole's diocese would also give her communion, too.

IcyPeas

(21,901 posts)
26. The Pope himself never denies anyone Communion
Sun May 22, 2022, 07:31 PM
May 2022
On September 15, 2021, Francis was asked about the issue of bishops denying pro-abortion politicians the right to participate in Communion and said he had never refused the Eucharist to anyone.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
28. I have a container of communion wafers on top of my fridge
Sun May 22, 2022, 09:04 PM
May 2022

right now. They are tasty. I ate them with dip while watching Jesus Christ Superstar on Easter. This is my second container since they are so yummy and they are a harmless and fun way for this atheist to enjoy any damn time I want.

shrike3

(3,756 posts)
36. Well, unless they're consecrated, they don't mean anything. They're just wafers.
Sun May 22, 2022, 11:07 PM
May 2022

Mean no disrespect.

If you did manage to get consecrated wafers, that was quite a feat.

BigmanPigman

(51,626 posts)
42. You can buy them on line.
Mon May 23, 2022, 01:43 AM
May 2022

I was raised a Catholic until I was 9 and chose not to attend mass anymore when my parents asked if I wanted to go. My dad was an atheist and my mom thought it would be good to introduce my sister and me to it. We even had to go to CCD on Sat mornings. Of course I said I didn't want to go any more if I could sleep in late on Sat. I did like the communion wafers though. In fact, that was the only thing I did like. I remember trying to keep it from dissolving and make it last longer.

My whole family is a bunch of atheists and when I bring my version of chips (the wafers) and dip for Easter appetizers we all get a kick and a laugh out of it.

https://www.churchpartner.com/product/2086/artistic-communion-bread/?source=google-products&CAWELAID=120337140000005156

This is the brand I get and I see they are on clearance with 75% off. What a deal! And they even have the special juice to drink with it. They haven't gone stale in over a year (economical and tasty).

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
47. Wow, you're the second person I've encountered who likes to eat the wafers like chips
Mon May 23, 2022, 08:32 AM
May 2022

I suppose they would hold up well in a thick dip.

The other fellow was a Russian Jewish roommate who also ate lots of bacon.

sir pball

(4,758 posts)
51. This is gonna be weird, but biodegradable packing peanuts are wafers in Cheeto-puff form.
Mon May 23, 2022, 11:05 AM
May 2022

Many many moons ago, me and my college friends were stoned off our gourds and decided to test the marketing line of "you can actually EAT them!" for the then-newfangled starch-based packing peanuts, which looked exactly like snow-white cheese poofs…

…they taste exactly like wafers. Like, identical.

Like we may have had a bottle of wine or two and eaten like...a stereo box worth of them. Weed makes you doofy

peppertree

(21,658 posts)
29. Pope Francis must have had a word with Father Corleone
Sun May 22, 2022, 09:27 PM
May 2022

"You listen to me, la puta qué te parió: Speaker Pelosi is a good Catholic - and above all, a good person. I don't want to hear any more macanas from you - capisce?"

"Yes, Your Holiness."

"Va bene."

shrike3

(3,756 posts)
32. Different diocese. Bishop in SF has no jurisdiction in DC DC Bishop said long ago he would not deny
Sun May 22, 2022, 11:01 PM
May 2022

anyone communion. Hence, she wasn't denied today. This should be no surprise.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
39. The Catholic Church becoming increasing political is one of the reasons I gradually left.
Sun May 22, 2022, 11:52 PM
May 2022

It wasn't sudden at all. But in the 50s when I was in Catholic school one of the paramount things we were taught in civics class was about render to Ceasar that which is Ceasar's and to God that which is God. There were other things which didn't seem right to me even then, like St. Maria Goretti who apparently jumped to her death rather than be raped and was declared a saint. Even as a kid not even knowing what rape was, if rape was a sin, the sin is the rapist's, not the victim's. There were other things like the patriarchy of the boys got to go first in everything, etc. But it really bothered me that we were taught that it was perfectly right that the parochial schools didn't get tax money because that would be putting government into religion, and religion was not to interfere in government. Even though I had friends who were priests and knew a few nuns, I felt that so many of the religions, especially Christian religion, was increasingly and alarmingly leaving their lane and trying to run everything. If Christ ever does come back, boy is he going to be ticked off.

UTUSN

(70,726 posts)
40. K&R for, the Inquisition was supposed to be over, "archbishop" you a-hole!
Mon May 23, 2022, 12:03 AM
May 2022

Besides, who are YOU to judge, ain't that above your pay grade?






brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
43. Not really relevant...
Mon May 23, 2022, 01:46 AM
May 2022

The archbishop in question controls the churches in San Francisco when she’s home.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
44. Exactly
Mon May 23, 2022, 06:20 AM
May 2022

She can go to any parish outside of the San Francisco archdiocese (and I think one other diocese, maybe Santa Rosa?) and present herself for Communion. It's up to whomever is distributing Communion to decide whether or not to give it to her. Caveat to that is if bishops or archbishops have directed their respective diocesan priests to either support or ignore the archbishop from San Francisco.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
52. I would like to see the Pope pressed on this issue.
Mon May 23, 2022, 11:06 AM
May 2022

As a former Catholic white woman who left the Catholic Church at 18 I feel the pope needs to show his stand on this.

I left the church for it's stands on abortion and birth control. I never felt confessing to a man inside a booth is confessing to God. I disliked how men were superior over women in the Catholic Church.

My mom would ask me to go to church. I would tell wherever I am is my church.

This archbishop should made to retire.

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