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President Biden should make Executive Orders (Original Post) Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 OP
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 Get into good trouble, do something different and wake people up !! uponit7771 May 2022 #1
What kind of exec order, Let's hear it. WarGamer May 2022 #2
everybody hand over all their guns to the authorities, effective immediately? anarch May 2022 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #6
Banning bullets or making them $1000 for one... Prove you know how to shoot and take out mitch96 May 2022 #5
Wouldn't work... Courts would see it as a defacto gun ban. WarGamer May 2022 #8
What do you suggest that might work? I'm just throwing stuff out there, I have no idea..nt mitch96 May 2022 #12
We're in a really tough spot. WarGamer May 2022 #19
" all the people calling for "action" It seems only the RWNJ's have itchy trigger fingers. mitch96 May 2022 #25
Declare a National Emergency like Trump did. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #4
Did you read that declaration? onenote May 2022 #18
Can he raise the age of ownership and require full blown psychiatric exam and national license? ecstatic May 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer May 2022 #9
Courts just struck down a "21" requirement... WarGamer May 2022 #10
mandatory liability insurance to own a weapon or buy ammo moonshinegnomie May 2022 #11
THIS!! librechik May 2022 #14
Ban assault rifles and countingbluecars May 2022 #13
We had that, and it expired in 1994. Thank you Republicans! librechik May 2022 #15
Handguns are involved far far far more than assault weapons in gun murders and Celerity May 2022 #16
Let's be honest... WarGamer May 2022 #20
Well (and it never will happen) I meant an actual ban in terms of ownership. No grandfathering in. Celerity May 2022 #21
+1000, great points WarGamer May 2022 #23
What would be gained by an executive order that will be stayed immediately? onenote May 2022 #17
Would backfire manicdem May 2022 #22
He just signed one today....video spanone May 2022 #24
he should announce that anyone arrested with a weapon will face terrorism charges moonshinegnomie May 2022 #26

anarch

(6,535 posts)
3. everybody hand over all their guns to the authorities, effective immediately?
Tue May 24, 2022, 07:55 PM
May 2022

that would probably go over pretty well.

Response to anarch (Reply #3)

mitch96

(13,923 posts)
5. Banning bullets or making them $1000 for one... Prove you know how to shoot and take out
Tue May 24, 2022, 08:46 PM
May 2022

"mass casualty" Insurance... to start... YMMV
m

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
8. Wouldn't work... Courts would see it as a defacto gun ban.
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:40 PM
May 2022

See Minneapolis Star Tribune Co. v. Commissioner

An arbitrary tax on an item, particularly one protected by Constitutional Rights is illegal...

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
19. We're in a really tough spot.
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:39 PM
May 2022

The 2A, as interpreted by THIS SCOTUS... means the right for individuals to keep and bear arms and language from Heller about "common usage" probably even protects assault weapons.



I don't have an answer... all the people calling for "action" don't have the answer either.

mitch96

(13,923 posts)
25. " all the people calling for "action" It seems only the RWNJ's have itchy trigger fingers.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:31 PM
May 2022

The only dem that I know of who did anything with a gun was the guy that shot up the congressional baseball game and got Scalise..
m

onenote

(42,737 posts)
18. Did you read that declaration?
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:40 AM
May 2022

First, itcites very specific statutes. Second, the action it ordered to be taken was the waiver of some requirements of the Medicare, Medicaid, and State Children’s Health Insurance programs.

How is that remotely a precedent for the types of actions being proposed in this thread?

ecstatic

(32,727 posts)
7. Can he raise the age of ownership and require full blown psychiatric exam and national license?
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:34 PM
May 2022

Or hell, just suspend all new sales because the recent massacres are being committed by newbie gun owners.

Response to ecstatic (Reply #7)

moonshinegnomie

(2,472 posts)
11. mandatory liability insurance to own a weapon or buy ammo
Tue May 24, 2022, 11:42 PM
May 2022

and repeal the liability exemption for gun maker and make it retroactive

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
13. Ban assault rifles and
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:03 AM
May 2022

body armor except for law enforcement and military. Where in the second amendment does it say we have the right to either?

Celerity

(43,476 posts)
16. Handguns are involved far far far more than assault weapons in gun murders and
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:10 AM
May 2022

I really would love to see a handgun ban

WarGamer

(12,463 posts)
20. Let's be honest...
Wed May 25, 2022, 07:40 PM
May 2022

300+ million handguns in the USA.

Ban all sales, mfg and import of handguns in the USA.

Still 300+ million handguns in the USA.

I don't have an answer.

Celerity

(43,476 posts)
21. Well (and it never will happen) I meant an actual ban in terms of ownership. No grandfathering in.
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:27 PM
May 2022
I don't have an answer.


None of us do, WG, at least ones that could pass and be enforced and actually put things back on a course for semi normality.

A constitutional amendment will never occur in regards to repealing the 2nd Amendment.

The only path I can think of wherein we will see something profoundly concrete and impactful done is if the Union breaks up and the currently Blue states' new national constitution specifically deals with the nightmare.

Even if we somehow took over the SCOTUS, and they allowed all sorts of hardcore restrictions and bans to stand on a national level, the Red States will openly disobey, the same as the Blue States will openly disobey if a national ban on abortion is passed.

Either example is a prime path as to how the Union starts to break up. Let's say it was a national abortion ban (meaning the Rethusg are in tripartite federal control). The Blue states instantly say, NO, we do not submit. Then the Rethugs have 2 main choices, both of which leads to a starting of a breakup of the Union.

They either attempt to send in troops and enforce the bans at gunpoint (or attempt some psychotic, ruinous 'sanctions regime') and chaos endues, with the Blue states starting secession processes, OR the Rethugs in national power do nothing much, and then you will have the Red States start to ignore other major national laws that THEY dislike, and use the Blue states' actions as justification. Chaos ensues again, especially if we (Dems) get back in power and try to bring the Red Sates to heel on whatever shitbaggery they are doing in terms of ignoring federal laws.

onenote

(42,737 posts)
17. What would be gained by an executive order that will be stayed immediately?
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:34 AM
May 2022

It would never take effect. And the administration wouldn't have any legal arguments to defend it.

manicdem

(389 posts)
22. Would backfire
Wed May 25, 2022, 08:33 PM
May 2022

I know you intend well, but this would be very bad. Basically it would be a dictatorship like what Putin would do. And it would be reversed the next day and wouldn't do anything. Bidens approval ratings would crater.

moonshinegnomie

(2,472 posts)
26. he should announce that anyone arrested with a weapon will face terrorism charges
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:05 PM
May 2022

life in prison with no parole

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