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(51,007 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,095 posts)This is their handiwork, and they need to see the death and destruction they cause on a regular basis. Motherfuckers.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)We elect our leaders and let this happen to our children.
Put it front and center! My 8 year old saw a report on this shooting on her tablet while watching an art video. She got scared and asked me about it. It brought tears to my eyes to have to explain what happened and what to do in an active shooter situation like that. But thats reality now. Put the bloody pictures in everyones fragile fucking faces and make them see that shit and then still advocate for less gun restrictions. Jeeezus. Look at Australia for a good example. Why cant we do a buy back and get the guns gone? Why the hell do we need so many guns???!!!???!!
sop
(10,274 posts)be viewed by all, and hopefully draw attention to the civil rights struggle in the fifties.
Bluethroughu
(5,202 posts)Let "Merica" see what advocating for violence looks like in the raw. We will need brave families to show the carnage, but this is so gross and ugly that if our country has to look at it, maybe there will be action to clean up the gun laws.
niyad
(113,595 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,262 posts)groundloop
(11,527 posts)(But sadly true).
Lucky Luciano
(11,262 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Americans must be made to look at what we have done to our children.
Can Americans show some real courage, not the fake kind, and take action?
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)We need to confront this with our eyes open.
Maybe then itll open some hearts.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)I saw some of the footage of Eisenhower and top Army brass forcing everyday Germans through the concentration camps right after the war.
You could see the well fed and well to do Germans go in and then come out.
Some of the German women especially looked like a train had hit them.
They were literally vomiting and distraught as they exited the camps.
This is exactly what needs to happen here in the US.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)I recall some of that footage.
crickets
(25,986 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,110 posts)Sanitizing the results of gun viokence helps perpetuates it. From that perspective I hope there will be families who follow the example of Emmett Till's mother. But it needs to be the choice of the families.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,202 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)mopinko
(70,261 posts)i get it. i wouldnt want it to be my kid, but how much longer are we gonna hide the bodies?
we need a new mamie till.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)American needs some shock therapy.
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DenaliDemocrat
(1,476 posts)A 12 gauge with 0 or 00 buck doesnt leave a massive exit wound. A .223 with a .55 gr bullet (most common) traveling at almost 3000 ft/sec leaves gaping wounds.
And before you argue every February I killed coyotes around our calving pasture and Ive seen both guns and rounds 1st hand as far as the damage they inflicted.
NutmegYankee
(16,201 posts)The size of the shock cavity, that shockwave that opens along the bullet path, is a cubic function of velocity. So compared to a handgun, a rifle, with 3 times the muzzle velocity will produce a shock cavity 9 times larger. This is why so many people survive handgun shootings and so few survive assault weapon shootings.
TomSlick
(11,114 posts)A .223 round destroys human flesh. Little bodies will be made unrecognizable.
The country needs to know what it condones.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)TomSlick
(11,114 posts)We have a gun fetish in this country. We love guns more than we love our children.
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BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)The only thing that happened was that RWNJs made up conspiracy theories. Screw. them.
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TomSlick
(11,114 posts)Enjoy your time on DU.
ShazzieB
(16,542 posts)I'm SO glad it's gone. UGH!
Wednesdays
(17,438 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Skittles
(153,209 posts)this what you need to tell us?
MustLoveBeagles
(11,641 posts)They are doing swabs on family members who's children are MIA. At least one father doesn't know if his daughter alive or dead. They aren't being allowed in the hospital.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)because law enforcement can't give them any info.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,641 posts)I can't blame the parents for being upset.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)Law enforcement probably does not have anything to tell the parents right now.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)She was on the phone with me the whole time as she frantically tried to find shelter.
I only felt a fraction of what these parents today feel, but I can tell you it is bad, very bad.
If I could have grown wings and flown to her side, I would have taken the bullet for her in a heartbeat.
Police finally shot and killed the guy and cleared the area. I kept looking at the pictures to make sure he was really dead before I could relax.
But yes the parents are desperate to get news of their child. But the reality is that the police and hospital staff don't have answers for them.
The kids are most likely unrecognizable. That is why DNA tests are needed.
But they cannot tell the parents that I assume. Maybe they don't want the parents to see any of this.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)he said he came upon piles of bodies, some of which were still trying to crawl around. A lot of cell phones were ringing with people calling, trying to figure out if their loved ones were ok.
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)This is what America has come to, scenes from a battle field.
Skittles
(153,209 posts)the hospital would be overrun by grieving relatives, while they are trying to deal with massive trauma cases
onecaliberal
(32,916 posts)msongs
(67,457 posts)the show list.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)be forced to look at pics of them every day for the rest of their lives
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)There is really sickness in our society.
Rhiannon12866
(206,184 posts)burrowowl
(17,653 posts)Too god damn many weapons of mass casualty!
catrose
(5,074 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)because it is reality. I dont recall seeing any reality after Sandy Hook.
ShazzieB
(16,542 posts)I. Cannot. Even. 🤯
Irish_Dem
(47,482 posts)They know it could end gun violence.
Bluethroughu
(5,202 posts)When is Congress going to pass legislation, that protects the citizens from these weapons of mass destruction!
The Supreme Court couldn't handle some shouting outside their homes, so they got protection. They are the ones that have defined the 2nd amendment to allow ANYONE to have guns.
We need people to see the carnage. We need brave families to open up the pictures of violence on America, show the world what advocating for guns looks like.
I'm so sick, distgusted, and sad.
pansypoo53219
(21,001 posts)wayne can have a flint lock.
keithbvadu2
(36,949 posts)C Moon
(12,221 posts)Those children should be alive. Qnuts should never have been born. Useless pieces of crap.
Celerity
(43,579 posts)sop
(10,274 posts)women's clinics. They showed these images during Congressional hearings. Their mailings were full of these photos. They even stole aborted fetuses and carried the remains around in jars as visual aids at protests.