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mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:11 PM May 2022

How about beating the NRA at their own game?

All the different gun control groups need to come together and create one organization to lobby for common sense regulations. In unity there is strength. A unified effort to campaign to stop the senseless deaths. A unified campaign to solicit money. Create a rating system and assign a firearms common sense regulation score to each politician. Make the fucking NRA Senators an offer they can’t refuse. Whatever it takes.

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How about beating the NRA at their own game? (Original Post) mobeau69 May 2022 OP
Excellent Idea.... global1 May 2022 #1
I've been thinking about this for a while. Just like the civil rights movement coalesced around one mobeau69 May 2022 #5
Rep. Crow. NT FeelingBlue May 2022 #14
Yep, or Beto, or Hogg, or someone else. One leader is the essential start. mobeau69 May 2022 #17
David Hogg would be my pick.... Sogo May 2022 #26
I like this idea, too. Sogo May 2022 #2
This list was posted on twitter tinymontgomery May 2022 #4
It has to be at least 2 years old soldierant May 2022 #12
Identify where NRA get their money and names of lobbyists. LiberalFighter May 2022 #3
Putin's money housecat May 2022 #10
Yes but there is more than that. LiberalFighter May 2022 #18
Of course. And Russia buys polititians, so maybe start there. housecat May 2022 #29
Unfortunately, we can't buy our own Supreme Court.... regnaD kciN May 2022 #6
With the strength that comes from the unification I'm talking about we can pack that place. mobeau69 May 2022 #7
I'm with you mobeau69. If democrats really come together with money BComplex May 2022 #28
Of course, but changes in the Constitution and electoral college are not starters. After we focus, housecat May 2022 #30
Of course. BComplex May 2022 #31
We can win if all progressives took school massacres and women's' right to choose seriously Kaleva May 2022 #8
And we need leadership to accomplish that. It's not a role for any president. It's a role for the mobeau69 May 2022 #9
excellent idea ! towerbum May 2022 #11
One iron in the fire... slightlv May 2022 #13
Without question you make important points. However, a singular laser focus on this one issue is mobeau69 May 2022 #24
David Hogg could beat the NRA RainCaster May 2022 #15
See below. mobeau69 May 2022 #20
Brady's group is probably the biggest and most notable. TeamProg May 2022 #16
They need to come together with Hogg et Al. Check all egos at the door. Be a drum major in the mobeau69 May 2022 #21
The game is simple The Jungle 1 May 2022 #19
We should do this with the media too. hadEnuf May 2022 #22
And focus on regulating ammunition! CaptainTruth May 2022 #23
Eliot Spitzer proposed just that in 1994 Polybius May 2022 #25
K & R Lars39 May 2022 #27

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
5. I've been thinking about this for a while. Just like the civil rights movement coalesced around one
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:29 PM
May 2022

leader, MLK, we need one leader that speaks for the movement. Yes, it needs to be a MOVEMENT. A unified movement. The movement needs ONE name. One leader. One agenda.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
17. Yep, or Beto, or Hogg, or someone else. One leader is the essential start.
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:06 PM
May 2022

One leader, one message, one agenda.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
26. David Hogg would be my pick....
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:10 AM
May 2022

He was on MSNBC tonight and suggesting a mobilization for pretty much what you're suggesting.

There is a nationwide march scheduled for June 11.

Text MARCH to 954954 to stay informed.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
2. I like this idea, too.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:22 PM
May 2022

It would be a place where people could find out how their reps and senators are supported by the NRA. For example, it was disclosed today that Mitt Romney has received more money from the NRA than any other elected official....something like 14 million....Would not have expected that about Mitt....

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
7. With the strength that comes from the unification I'm talking about we can pack that place.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:44 PM
May 2022

Believe. I’m telling you if we all come together under a singular movement with a single leader, ala MLK, we can stop this shit.

BComplex

(8,053 posts)
28. I'm with you mobeau69. If democrats really come together with money
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:53 PM
May 2022

and boots on the ground, there's nothing we couldn't do.

For starters, we need to make some serious changes to our constitution, and forever do away with the electoral college.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
30. Of course, but changes in the Constitution and electoral college are not starters. After we focus,
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:56 PM
May 2022

get A LOT of money, ignore distractions and fear, then we might be ready for big changes.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
8. We can win if all progressives took school massacres and women's' right to choose seriously
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:51 PM
May 2022

and went to the polls in record numbers.

Hillary lost the election in 2016 by about 80k votes total in MI, WI and PA. Winning those three would have won her the election.

We won't win Red states but we'd win enough in battleground states to have control of the WH and, by a comfortable margin, control of Congress

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
9. And we need leadership to accomplish that. It's not a role for any president. It's a role for the
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:02 PM
May 2022

leader of The Movement with only ONE iron in the fire.

 

towerbum

(263 posts)
11. excellent idea !
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:41 PM
May 2022

Now is the time to get some good mind's on this & start creating this concept ! I'm in ! score each politician ! that alone will piss'm off ! damn that's a good idea !

slightlv

(2,823 posts)
13. One iron in the fire...
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:48 PM
May 2022

if that iron means ONE spokesperson... NOT one idea; NOT one policy. Too much at stake at this point. Otherwise, I agree with you wholeheartedly. A true leader, one like MLK, could bring disparate groups together under a banner of justice that would encompass several policies, including voting rights, civil rights, etc.

I say this because believe me, EVERY single time, WOMEN'S rights get left behind until "next" time. Until here we are on the precipice of losing it all. We've stood up for everybody else. I'm afraid you're going to find this attitude across the board. There is simply too much at stake right now. Democracy across the board is at the edge of the cliff. As I said, a good leader, a charismatic leader, a strong leader, will be able to unite us under one banner of Justice and encompass/unite us all. That is what we need. And boy, do I agree with you there. Until we have a strong, ramrod straight backboned individual who can withstand what the rightwing can and will throw at him/her, I worry we're leaves blowing in the wind. You're also right in that it can't be a presidential candidate. It needs to be someone not in line for any political office, IMO. It needs to be someone for the people, of the people. I've thought about this for several years, and wished I was a few decades younger. I have the passion to do it locally, regionally. But I also know myself too well. I have TOO much passion. You have to be level headed and be able to not let the bastards get to you. I've got too many hot buttons. I'd be fighting mad way too easily. I wear my heart out on my sleeve. And I have too many who are close to me who could get hurt bad if the repugs would get dirty. And you they would. The person who would take on this type of job would have to know what they'd be getting themselves and those close to them into, and be willing to accept the responsibility. Hubby and I have talked seriously about it prior to this. I'm no shrinking violet. But I'm also not the person to do it. I've got too many ways they could 'out' me as an outsider... and bring out the Mama Bear. And if they'd hurt one of my students or one of my critters. I honestly don't know if there'd be a limit to what I'd do to get back at them. That's not the type of personality one needs in a position like that. But gods, do we need a level headed person to pick up the banner and run with it.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
24. Without question you make important points. However, a singular laser focus on this one issue is
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:34 PM
May 2022

essential.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
15. David Hogg could beat the NRA
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:02 PM
May 2022

He's got all the right ideas, qualifications, history... And he will play a long game.

mobeau69

(11,145 posts)
21. They need to come together with Hogg et Al. Check all egos at the door. Be a drum major in the
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:20 PM
May 2022

effort to change America and stop the carnage.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
23. And focus on regulating ammunition!
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:29 PM
May 2022

I've been screaming about this for so many years I'm hoarse. And freaking frustrated. It's like no one wants to actually really do anything to save lives.

Read about the injuries caused by (lower velocity) handgun wounds, injuries that are usually survivable, & compare them to injuries caused by high-velocity rounds from guns like the AR-15, which are devastating, organs are pulverized, victims can't be saved. Read the words of ER doctors who have treated gunshot victims, Google is your friend, there are plenty out there.

The Second Amendment doesn't say a word about ammunition, which is why I'm convinced we should try to regulate ammunition, make it less deadly. That approach stands a much better chance of surviving court scrutiny & saving thousands of lives... but I've been saying this for years & I still haven't found a politician who cares.

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