Wait....I thought cops were the answer?

[AngryOldDem]

https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-44a7cfb990feaa6ffe482483df6e4683

UVALDE, Texas (AP) — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman’s rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

“Go in there! Go in there!” nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.

Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, was killed in the attack, said he raced to the school when he heard about the shooting, arriving while police were still gathered outside the building.

Upset that police were not moving in, he raised the idea of charging into the school with several other bystanders.

“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” he said. “More could have been done.”

If this has already been posted, apologies. I looked around and didn’t see it.

I thought THIS was what we needed….good guys with guns going after bad guys with guns. Pure dereliction of duty at the least; pure cowardice at worst. This is like the guard at Stoneman Douglas who ran away when the shooting started.

One teacher was a human shield. So who’s the true hero and “good guy” here?

[deminks]

1. Being reported on MSNBC now.

OMG. The county had a swat team. Why was Border Patrol called? Many unanswered questions.

[lapfog_1]

3. Hispanic school

maybe the border patrol was thinking about a twofer...

Get the killer AND round up some illegals (if any were left alive after an hour)!



BTW, after living in Arizona and being stopped twice a day at BP checkpoints while commuting to my job... yeah, I hate the BP.

[panader0]

26. I live in SE Az and there is no way to get from here to Tucson without a BP checkpoint.

They had dogs, who apparently could smell if you were an illegal immigrant. So no way to carry some
smoke up north. The checkpoints were actually more for drugs than for immigrants. When marijuana
became legal this past year, the BP closed the stops, for the most part. Checkpoints should be at the
border, not on state roads.

[lapfog_1]

5. Hispanic school

maybe the border patrol was thinking about a twofer...

Get the killer AND round up some illegals (if any were left alive after an hour)!



BTW, after living in Arizona and being stopped twice a day at BP checkpoints while commuting to my job... yeah, I hate the BP.

[whistler162]

9. You might consider removing your

embarrassing post. This type of call will get ALL law enforcement agencies moving towards the location.

[AntivaxHunters]

12. There's nothing embarrassing about it

And it wouldn't be the first time either that something like that happened.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/states-push-back-against-ice-courthouse-arrests

[North Shore Chicago]

2. But but but.....

This school only needed the he-man aka trump! He alone could have saved everyone, and had hamberders delivered after.

Healing to all of the victims and their families.

[ancianita]

4. The first clue someone wasn't doing their job was when we read that it took over an hour to stop it.

Weed all police applicants in the U.S. early. It should be a U.S. national standard for all police applicants to take personality and ethics entry tests, and repeat testing with different tests every three years.

There should be no qualified immunity for police in any state. Immunity should be earned per performance records that contain no community complaints.

[AngryOldDem]

10. 45 to 60 minutes.

Everybody could have been killed. School doesn’t look to be very big.

If law enforcement is the answer, then it needs to be prepared. This story is horrific on so many levels. I can’t imagine watching this from the street as these bystanders did.

But no matter — the easiest and only solution to ALL of this is GUN CONTROL.

[ancianita]

11. Gun control is not the only solution. Crime prevention at all schools should be a U.S. national

standard.

[Crowman2009]

6. Cops only quickly respond if there's an unarmed black person nearby just minding their own business.

[vlyons]

7. GOP/NRA Plan A gun "solution

But wait, I thought cops WERE the answer.

Turns out cops waited outside Uvalde school for an hour before charging the shooter. Giving the shooter time to work off some steam shooting a bunch of kids in the face.

So let's think about this. The GOP Plan A gun "solution" is to put an armed cop in every school. What that means is a retired cop with a pistol - maybe 9 bullets or so -- against a teenager in kevlar vest with an AR15 and a 100 bullet capacity, and maybe a couple of extra 100 bullet magazines that maybe has be refitted to fire automatically. That's the GOP Plan A gun "solution. " Plan B is to make every teacher wear a pistol. Maybe the janitor and the kitchen staff too.

[Dorian Gray]

8. Why the fuck

was a BORDER PATROL agent the person who went in and shot Ramos?

I mean, thank god he did. But... WTactualF?

[AntivaxHunters]

13. A few things

Because the local cops wouldn't. Literally.
They did however manage to rescue their own kids.

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=1kSdItRrclhTRJvoaX6_rw

[Dorian Gray]

15. Yeah

it's all insanity.

I can't even begin to wrap my brain around what happened. And what the cops didn't do.

It's infuriating.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Hence conflicting reports of pursuit, car crash, yet he ran and entered the school

The time line didn't compress, almost as if they were covering something up. In more than a few places, after pursuit, driver runs from car, police will shoot him. Now maybe they did try, or lost him in the chase .. remains to be seen ... but the sequence doesn't seem connected from the conflicting reports.

[ShazzieB]

17. It may take a while to sort out all the details.

But I hope it doesn't take too long. An awful lot of people have a LOT of questions, abd they deserve answers.

[Probatim]

20. It doesn't have to take too long. We'll have another school shooting shortly

and our attention will be directed at that one and these questions will never be answered.

[area51]

24. I fear this may happen. n/t

[sop]

18. Don't these cops have body cams? Recordings of police radios? 911 calls for help?

[ck4829]

16. ...

[sop]

19. There was a cop who arrived first at Parkland HS and waited for backup before doing anything.

I think the guy said he took cover behind a parked car, or something, but didn't go in because "his training." The guy was crucified for his cowardly inaction while the shooter roamed the halls, killing students and teachers.

[Bengus81]

21. Yep...parents outside yelling at cops to DO SOMETHING,instead of just standing there

Would that have happened at some $25,000 a year private school for rich white kids? Of course not.

[Srkdqltr]

22. Just lock the fn doors.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

23. Absolutely unreformable.

[Ilsa]

25. Small city, poor training? nt