Democrats allowing a 10 day vacation right now is unfathomable.

[boston bean]

We must show our urgency.

In 10 days this event will be another foot note in the history of schoolhouse slaughters.

[2naSalit]

1. I think...

It's to let them go home to face their constituents who are pretty fucking pissed right now. I hope that they have no peace wherever they go.

[Novara]

2. They'd BETTER show their faces to their constituents if they go home

I'm pissed that they're taking a 2-week vacation after two mass murders but they BETTER not be going home to hide. I want them to face the wrath of everyone who is outraged that nothing is being done to stop the carnage.

[2naSalit]

4. Agreed.

[pwb]

3. Blaming Democrats for this is a bit of a stretch Bean?

Sounds like what the other side thinks to me. Swing and a miss on this thought. IMO.

[boston bean]

6. You think this is blame? It is critical of strategy.

You gonna question my democratic bonafides?

[pwb]

8. I guess.

I would have said Congress is allowing the recess. That's all. It is two opinions not a challenge.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

15. So you are telling me there is nothing Dems could have done from 2012 until now?

Because if so, we are useless.

The blame for not getting something done crosses the aisle.

[pwb]

19. I am not telling you anything.

What could they have done without a 60 vote majority?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

21. Removed the filibuster? Something?

It's been 10 years since Sandy Hook. We've done fuck all. That's not acceptable. Certainly the great minds we have should have been able to come up with, I don't know, something more than nothing.

Again, if we couldn't get anything done in 10 years, then we're useless. That gives nobody a reason to vote for Dems.

[pwb]

22. No blame at all goes to the pukes you say?

It is all our fault? NO. It gives no one a reason to vote puke. Opposite, IMO.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

23. Absolutely not what I said.

In fact, I said: "The blame for not getting something done crosses the aisle."

It is on ALL of them.

The "pukes" are doing what the base wants. If we are going to convince people to vote Dem, then saying "Well, we couldn't do anything in a FUCKING decade, so, keep voting us" ain't going to cut it.

But this is 100% on Congress as a whole. Both sides. They all suck on this issue. It's been a decade since 20 kids were gunned down at an elementary school and nothing has changed. Oh, well, not nothing--I get to do active shooter drills at my school.

[pwb]

24. "This gives nobody a reason to vote for Dems" You wrote.

Who should we vote for?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

28. I'm saying if we are trying to pull in young voters and have them still vote for us

we aren't giving them a reason to continue to do it.

And they just won't vote because they feel both sides suck. This issue solidifies that attitude.

[betsuni]

29. "both sides suck"

[Cuthbert Allgood]

30. On this issue they do.

It's been a decade. Fuck all has been done.

[betsuni]

31. But in that decade, have Democrats had a very large majority in Congress as FDR did?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. Do you think that's going to sell?

Did Dems get rid of the filibuster when they had the Senate? What exactly did they do to stop gun violence?

Shrugging our shoulders and pointing at the Rs ain't going to win votes and remove culpability.

[betsuni]

33. Not having the votes is not having the votes.

Not everything is about money and selling and advertising; Republicans are a post-policy radicalized nutty non-party. Anybody who can't see that is a lost cause.

[Mad_Machine76]

16. Republicans need to go home

and (hopefully) face the music, especially now.

[betsuni]

5. "allowing"?

[boston bean]

7. Yes. Allowing. They could remain in session.

[betsuni]

9. But if they don't have enough votes to get anything passed, what's two weeks?

[boston bean]

11. I did explain that in my OP.

[brooklynite]

14. The House only needs a majority vote. You think they don't have that?

[betsuni]

17. Have that for what?

[brooklynite]

25. Any gun control policy you can think of.

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[betsuni]

27. Don't know what "Cyril policy" means.

[Mad_Machine76]

18. It's going to die in the Senate

There's no urgency (to me) in rushing to vote for something that's going to die in the Senate. We've been through this several times now. A week or two weeks is not going to really matter much.

[onenote]

10. It's an election year

They need to get in front of the voters. Do you really want our incumbents to leave the field open for their opponents?

[boston bean]

12. Working on this even would get them millions more eyeballs.

[samnsara]

13. im not worried about it....

..they will be working and everyone needs a brief break from this madness

[Wounded Bear]

20. Sounds like a good time for them to be out stumping on abortion rights and gun control...

[Samrob]

26. Only if we let it. I believe 10 days back home the Congress critters will get an earful and

comeback and pass at least two gun bills Don't know which two but there will be two. By the general, there will be some kind of ban on assault weapons and who can buy them. Those already in possession will have strict law s on using them.

[palinny]

34. They could have voted & then go home

Schumer could have, imo, held a vote which takes only one day, and then they could have all gone home to their districts for the rest of their vacation to face (or not) their consituents.