For Cars They Use Sophisticated Crash Test Dummies To Determine Effects Of A Car Crash On Humans....

[global1]

Have they ever applied that technique to determine the effects of various guns and bullets on a human body?

I've heard how unrecognizable a body is after being hit by shots from certain guns and types of bullets.

I've seen posts here on DU where people have suggested that they publish the pics of these kids that have been killed in these school shootings in convincing people that certain guns and bullets would be banned once people see their results.

I don't think that it's appropriate to show those types of pics and I don't think I'd want to see them anyway.

BUT

I do think it would be appropriate if the 'crash test dummy' type of technique was applied to the effects of what guns and bullets do to a human being and then show us those results.

Does anyone know if such testing exists?

[hack89]

1. Unfortunately there are plenty of shot people to figure that out.

the military, in particular, has been researching bullet wounds for decades, both to improve their weapons and to improve emergency medical treatment.

I don't think a dummy, no matter how sophisticated, can adequately duplicate a human body.

[House of Roberts]

2. The GQP won't approve compiling statistics on gun crime and mass shootings.

I highly doubt they would fund bullet trauma research either.

[global1]

3. Why Does The GQP Have Anything To Do With Funding Such Bullet Trauma Research....

Can't some independent agency or some MSM group conduct such research as a means of illustrating the destruction different guns and bullets do to the human body.

It would be like a Public Service Announcement.

[exboyfil]

5. That might be an effective documentary

Read the autopsy report of kids who have been killed and dramatize it with either a simulated dummy or CGI.

[House of Roberts]

6. Who funds PSAs

or 'independent research'?

Find a funding source and match it to the appropriate 'agency' and you'll have your study done.

The GQP just obstructs government funded research that they don't like.

[exboyfil]

4. They have ballistic simulants for a variety of reasons for criminal investigation

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You can see them being used when they attempt to model the JFK shooting (both the "magic" bullet and the headshot).

Ammunition sold to the public is probably deadlier than military rounds used in war which have to be metal jacketed (these rounds are prescribed by the Hague convention). In war you often have to punch through stuff (vehicles, buildings, helmets, and body armor). Consumer rounds are designed to fragment thus transferring all of their energy into the wound.

When shooting varmints or elementary kids, you usually don't need to punch through stuff so the hollow point rounds are a better selection.

[sarisataka]

9. Military rounds are not

And do not have to be steel jacketed. The Hague convention mandates bullets be fully jacketed only but not what material

Copper-nickle is nearly universal

[exboyfil]

10. Thanks for the correction

[EarlG]

7. Combine your idea with this one here and you might be on to something:

Here's How We Can Defeat The Gun Culture - Without Congress

I'm sure we've all seen footage like this of unbelted crash test dummies taking terrible damage:

So, get 20 or so child size crash test dummies, set them up in a fake classroom, and then shoot them with an AR-15.

Make a PSA out of that and see if changes any minds.

[sarisataka]

8. Yes, they have

The military and some research groups have used cadavers to test weapon effects. I do not believe any pictures or videos are available to the general public.

On YouTube there are many videos of people shooting various items such as water jugs, pumpkins, slabs of meat, etc to attempt to simulate the effects of bullets. Many videos are just idiots shooting something but there are some that make a good effort at a scientific approach.

The most useful are probably the ones that use ballistic gelatin. That is the medium the FBI uses and can be duplicated by civilians. The gelatin is translucent enough to usually see the path of the bullet and the trail of destruction it leaves. That simulates the permanent wound cavity, the direct physical damage that the bullet does to tissue.