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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThese Robb Elementary details are sickening.
It is truly a miracle that everyone in that school wasnt killed, if the shooter was inside for an hour.
The school isnt that big, from the looks of it.
The CCTV footage of the cop (or whoever it was) and the shooter at the door. No words.
The door. I thought it was SOP that ALL outside doors were to be locked during school hours. You dont leave them unlocked, or propped open, EVER, no matter how inconvenient it is. Maybe they figured they were safe. You cannot make that assumption anymore.
As hard as this is, these details make it all the more unbearable. I cannot fathom how these new details add to the grief of the parents and teachers, and the psychological damage to everyone. I dont see how anyone recovers from this. Especially the kids who witnessed this horror. I hope they get the help they need, probably for the rest of their lives.
I feel gut punched hearing all this.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Does anyone have that?
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Pretty grainy, as they tend to be. The shooter dropped some of his ammo.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)I sub in 15 different schools.
At all, from at least 15 minutes before kids enter, until the end of the day, EVERY door is locked.
At one school, they were doing mask breaks on some days during COVID.
The doors to be used changed every morning & every afternoon.
The exit alarms were disabled on just those doors, and the reactivated when a new door hit the top of the list. (It's a pretty big junior high, so lots of doors.)
Now, I've been to schools that don't have exit alarms, but those doors are all locked.
Most of them even have electronic locks on the front door, AND on the office door. So, can't even get into the vestibule without being buzzed in.
I was very surprised that this is not universal.
MissMillie
(38,560 posts)It's not that I don't care.
It's just becoming too much, time after time... the innocent people killed. It's heartbreaking.
I fear for my own sanity if I delve into the details too much.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)usajumpedtheshark
(672 posts)I hate it when some people die but other people don't and then someone says it was a miracle. Than implies that the people who died were allowed by some deity to be killed and others were protected. People have a really low bar for what constitutes a miracle.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)Better word choices for you? Jesus.
Even moreso now knowing the man was in the building for a solid hour.
Bucky
(54,026 posts)It just means "amazingly lucky"
Let's be a little less eager to jump down each other's throats over simple word choices.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)The attempt to blame the teacher is bullshit
Link to tweet
https://hillreporter.com/uvalde-teachers-lawyer-contradicts-police-over-key-piece-of-evidence-in-robb-elementary-massacre-132653
But according to the San Antonio Express-News, the teachers lawyer says she closed the door shut after she was informed an active shooter was on the loose.
The teenager killed 19 children and two teachers with an assault weapon he was able to obtain legally and easily as soon as he turned 18. He was also apparently allowed to pay off the AR-15 he used on a payment plan. The teacher, who remains unidentified, called 911 to report an accident near the school involving a black truck, which later turned out to belong to the gunman, who had also shot his grandmother, said the teachers lawyer, Don Flanary. He added that the teacher propped open the door around the time the gunman crashed his truck, and that the teacher also called 911, but said he wants to make clear that the door was not left propped open and the teacher is not to blame for the shooters access to the building.
She saw the wreck, Flanary said. She ran back inside to get her phone to report the accident. She came back out while on the phone with 911. The men at the funeral home yelled, He has a gun! She saw him jump the fence, and he had a gun so she ran back inside. She kicked the rock away when she went back in. She remembers pulling the door closed while telling 911 that he was shooting. She thought the door would lock because that door is always supposed to be locked. Security video confirms the teacher removed the rock holding the door open and closed it.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)And yes, blaming the teacher is complete bullshit. Its nothing more than a poor attempt to cover the asses of thr police.
Bucky
(54,026 posts)Every now and then I find a door that hasn't been shut properly. It's a security risk, but it's an incredibly rare event that anyone ever gets in improperly. I think a stray dog got in once through the teacher's parking lot entrance. Another time it was a bat.
Uvalde's Robb Elementary is apparently an older school building, so a door not set to lock by default isn't unexpected. A low risk environment is going to have more lax security discipline. This is what makes the mass shooter phenomenon in America so insidious. There's many more obvious and less intrusive ways to prevent mass shooting events. But it would require Republican politicians to start favoring students' lives over gun lobby dollars