Police narrative on Texas school shooting in question as new details emerge

[ck4829]

At a press briefing Wednesday afternoon, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott praised police for their response to the massacre Tuesday that killed 19 kids and two teachers. A Border Patrol officer fatally shot the gunman, who authorities identified as 18-year-old Salvador Ramos.

“The reality is as horrible as what happened, it could have been worse," Abbott said. "The reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do. They showed amazing courage by running towards gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. And it is a fact that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save lives. Unfortunately, not enough.”

However, the Associated Press reported late Wednesday that police waited outside the school for at least 40 minutes while parents and onlookers urged them to do something.

“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” Javier Cazares, whose daughter Jacklyn was killed in the attack, told the AP. “More could have been done.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-narrative-on-texas-school-shooting-in-question-as-new-details-emerge-132129728.html

Starting to sound like Abbott's little photo op was to do damage control.

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

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[BComplex]

7. Holy shit!!!! The cops did NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!!!

The parents were in a panic, and the cops were yelling at THE PARENTS!!!!
That is so beyond messed up.

[BComplex]

9. That video needs to go viral, and be shown on all the news networks.

Every person in this country needs to see that video.

[oldsoftie]

12. Was the gunman already dead or what? I don't hear any shots.

What the timeframe of this video?

[Roland99]

20. My imagination running wild

I could picture the cops shooting the parents if they'd tried a "Let's roll!" moment

[Lars39]

4. FBI needs to investigate

[haele]

5. Reality is that there were windows in the back of the classrooms.

I'm sure parents would rather have their kids scratched up with broken glass as the police go around the building and shoot at him through a couple windows than shot with an AR-15 as the murderer has time to make himself comfortable and shoot anything that moves. Heck, they might even have scared him out of the classroom by shooting through the window and got him out in the breezeway in a pincer move.

If all modern police are is glorified traffic cops cosplaying as a militia, then we as a country need to have a discussion on what importance police forces really carry. If it's just to be a "deterrent" to crime as a wandering watchman/record maker or to generate revenue writing tickets or arresting people after the fact, they don't need to be armed or get any more deference than the County Clerk.

I'm only former military with a month of security training back in the 1980's - that included terrorist/hostage response - so what would I know?

Haele

[wnylib]

28. Don't know about scaring him out of the classroom.

Out of the classroom he could have shot into other classrooms. Could have taken over another classroom.

[malaise]

8. Nailed it

Starting to sound like Abbott's little photo op was to do damage control.

He tried to get ahead of reality

[lpbk2713]

10. A prepared statement. Two days after the fact.

That means bullshit.

[njhoneybadger]

11. How the fuck do these cowards sleep at night.

[demigoddess]

13. Hoping they don't sleep at all. For the rest of their lives. And short ones at that.

[ZonkerHarris]

14. Texas cops are cowardly racists. They only like to confront unarmed PoC.

[TeamProg]

23. ..Usually running away with their backs toward the cops.. n/t

[cksmithy]

15. These police officers did not

protect those children. They protected themselves. If a group of officers had gotten inside the classroom, maybe one or two of them would have been wounded or died, but I know they could have save a lot of innocent children if they had done their job. Apparently, if you are out gunned, you don't have to follow the oath you take to protect the public. They are all cowards, milling around doing nothing.

[Brother Buzz]

16. Photo op? My magic 8-Ball says Beto O'Rourke is going to get a lot of mileage out of it

[ck4829]

17. I certainly hope he does

[BadgerMom]

18. "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

19. This video shows that the police ignored pleas from parents to go into school

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[BadgerMom]

21. Those cops doing crowd control were heavily armed.

The only reason those heavily armed officers should have been talking to parents instead of going through the back door Sen. Cruz was so distressed about would be because their fellow officers were already in the school neutralizing the shooter. This is bull. The kids and staff had to go through active shooter drills, but apparently their LEOs did not.

I hope teachers’ unions speak out loudly and with one voice. The police should have handled this. It is not the job of teachers to do so. Use your combined voices to be heard, unions.

[murielm99]

22. Did anyone catch today's press conference by

Uvalde's law enforcement? They interrupted regular programming here and had a special report. They were angry about being criticized and contradicted. It was a real CYA event.

[TeamProg]

24. Today's DPS press conference confirms that LE knew they were doing nothing for nearly an hour.

They just have to find out "why".

13:20 mark.

COWARDS !!!

[gulliver]

25. It's not helpful to blame the cops

Did they follow procedure? We don't know. Was there bad leadership? We don't know. Cowardice? We don't know.

And I don't think it matters. Even if the cops did anything wrong or did less than their duty, it shouldn't take any of the focus of blame away from the gun industry, its lobby, and its Republican Party. Indeed, if a cop did anything wrong and now is feeling unbearable guilt from it, that too should be blamed on the gun industry, its lobby, and its Republican Party.

Blaming the cops is exactly what the people who should be blamed want. Anyone but them.

[ck4829]

26. Huh, then it is something then... not an item of helplessness

I, for one, am fed up with posting things, attempts to create change, and suggestions and seeing other people do the same for this and other things just to be met with...

"... we don't have the votes"
"... there's nothing we can do"
"... oh well"
"... just the way it is"
"... nothing can be done"

I have a nephew who is just a little bit younger than the kids that were murdered there, and one of the victims looks like a little girl in my extended family, and so I am a little afraid. But I'm also irritated, especially at this joke of a political system that puts the four words of "shall not be infringed" over human lives. And I'm furious with the idea that this is just going to become another notch in the history of school shootings. End of the line, even if I have to do it by myself!

So...

Did they follow procedure? I don't care. Was there bad leadership? I don't care. Cowardice? I don't care.

They can come out against the hold of those four words and then they can earn my trust.

[Martin68]

27. Sounds like Texas police were scared to go in.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

29. Nothing says ban assault rifles like cops being scared of the shooter who has one.

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