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mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:35 AM May 2022

I fear there was a racist police response to Texas shooting, Parents were yelling for them to go in

Onlookers urged police to charge into Texas school

UVALDE, Texas — Frustrated onlookers urged police officers to charge into the Texas elementary school where a gunman's rampage killed 19 children and two teachers, witnesses said Wednesday, as investigators worked to track the massacre that lasted upwards of 40 minutes and ended when the 18-year-old shooter was killed by a Border Patrol team.

"Go in there! Go in there!" nearby women shouted at the officers soon after the attack began, said Juan Carranza, 24, who saw the scene from outside his house, across the street from Robb Elementary School in the close-knit town of Uvalde. Carranza said the officers did not go in.


https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101418947/onlookers-urged-police-to-charge-into-texas-school

It took 40-60 minutes for them to take down the shooter.
I think this was racism. Where the cops cowards, I doubt it.

Even horrible Fox News was reporting on the lack of response.
There are videos of the parents shouting for the cops to go in.
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I fear there was a racist police response to Texas shooting, Parents were yelling for them to go in (Original Post) mysteryowl May 2022 OP
K&R, police have NO ISSUE shooting at unarmed black people even when they "fear for their lives" uponit7771 May 2022 #1
Especially when they "fear for their lives" Bettie May 2022 #6
Is there a residency requirement for their Police? TheRealNorth May 2022 #2
it has been firmly established that Law Enforcement's role is to serve and protect private property anarch May 2022 #10
as in, you think they were holding back, thinking "well...uh...how many white kids are there?" anarch May 2022 #3
The cops deserve all the scrutiny they're getting and then some senseandsensibility May 2022 #4
Why do you doubt cops were cowards? They were up against an AR15 that rips bodies LizBeth May 2022 #5
They needed a SWAT response mysteryowl May 2022 #9
No! They were the "good guys with the gun" And their JOB was to stop the slaughter of children. LizBeth May 2022 #13
I know, and this is the repukes solution to have armed people in schools to stop shootings. mysteryowl May 2022 #14
Exactly my point. Ban assault if we have to wait for special to address slaughters while listening LizBeth May 2022 #15
Some of the cops had kids in there. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #7
i read a deputy's dtr was killed samnsara May 2022 #12
I don't think it was race. i think they were scared shitless. He had them ... Whiskeytide May 2022 #8
I saw several... 2naSalit May 2022 #17
Yeah. I think I did too. I'm just frustrated and lashing out. This ... Whiskeytide May 2022 #18
i remember columbine and how long it took then samnsara May 2022 #11
You're assuming the cops were white, in a town that's like 90% Hispanic.... BruceWane May 2022 #16
+1 chowder66 May 2022 #20
Hey come on folks, LIGHTEN UP durablend May 2022 #19

Bettie

(16,110 posts)
6. Especially when they "fear for their lives"
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:40 AM
May 2022

but, let's be real, they don't actually fear for their lives when a Black man reaches for the wallet they told him to get out.

This time they had reason to fear and they chose to let a bunch of little kids die because they didn't think they were worth risking their own asses for.

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
2. Is there a residency requirement for their Police?
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:38 AM
May 2022

One of the many reasons why there should be a residency requirement for police. If it their kids or their neighbors kids in danger, I believe they are more likely to do their job to "Serve and Protect."

anarch

(6,535 posts)
10. it has been firmly established that Law Enforcement's role is to serve and protect private property
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:49 AM
May 2022

not to protect citizens.

We could maybe have a separate sort of Safety Patrol or something like that if you want some authorities to be in charge of protecting people; aside from that, with the way our constitution is written it is literally up to us, and actually the reason we have the 2nd amendment in the first place, to allow for society to stop things like this from happening and to charge us with the collective responsibility for carrying that out. Of course at the time it was written there was maybe more of a general concern about "savages" raiding our towns and carrying off our children and so on, but I'm pretty sure that was the spirit of it...so as not to have a standing army, and to give citizens (at that point, read that as "white male land-owners" which were really the only enfranchised citizens they had in mind) both the right and the responsibility of taking care of things themselves.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
3. as in, you think they were holding back, thinking "well...uh...how many white kids are there?"
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:38 AM
May 2022

or something like that? Based on how the cops deal with the neighborhood I live in, yeah, probably.

senseandsensibility

(17,062 posts)
4. The cops deserve all the scrutiny they're getting and then some
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:39 AM
May 2022

but I doubt racism was the issue. I've lived in a similar community for most of my life. The cops were probably all or mostly Hispanic. My guess would be the law enforcement culture.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
5. Why do you doubt cops were cowards? They were up against an AR15 that rips bodies
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:39 AM
May 2022

apart. Most of the cops had brown skin too. I am sticking with cowards. While they held their tasers to zap parents wanting to storm classroom as they listened to the children scream as bullets were shot, How many bullets per minute?

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
9. They needed a SWAT response
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:47 AM
May 2022

I know I would be one of the parents yelling for them to go in. I completely understand the parents response.

mysteryowl

(7,390 posts)
14. I know, and this is the repukes solution to have armed people in schools to stop shootings.
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:02 PM
May 2022

They had armed police/security and it did not stop this. That is why I said SWAT, because they have more body armor.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
15. Exactly my point. Ban assault if we have to wait for special to address slaughters while listening
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:04 PM
May 2022

to the childrens screams outside the building and damn well do not ever tell me about a "good guy with a gun" when they are cowards knowing they are out gunned.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
7. Some of the cops had kids in there.
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:44 AM
May 2022

One of the teachers killed was married to a police officer.

Many of the officers had the same skin color as the children, as was pointed out on another thread.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
8. I don't think it was race. i think they were scared shitless. He had them ...
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:47 AM
May 2022

… significantly outgunned and they knew it. Maybe if they had stopped by a sporting goods store on the way, they’d have been braver.

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
17. I saw several...
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:16 PM
May 2022

Cops with assault rifles walking around outside the school while the incident was ongoing.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
18. Yeah. I think I did too. I'm just frustrated and lashing out. This ...
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:07 PM
May 2022

… massacre embodies everything wrong with our gun culture. Barely 18 kid who looks disturbed walks into a gun shop to pick up guns he ordered on line. No scrutiny. Police have a miserably failed response. Dead children who must have been terrified in the final minutes of their lives. And the typical Republican response that makes me furious. It’s crystal clear that his rights - their rights - to own weapons designed for mass shootings mean more than the lives of those kids.

It’s incomprehensible except that in today’s America it’s not. Shit.

BruceWane

(345 posts)
16. You're assuming the cops were white, in a town that's like 90% Hispanic....
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:11 PM
May 2022

I'll betcha most of the cops were Hispanic, too.

I think the cops saw that three trained officers had already lost a shootout with this guy, and none of them were feeling the "superhero" thing at that point.

So much for the "we just need more good guys with guns!" bullshit...........

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