Chris Hayes: I am more certain of this than I have ever been. Stop lockdown drills in all schools...

[demmiblue]

I am more certain of this than I have ever been. Stop lockdown drills in all schools, immediately. It does nothing to protect kids. All it does is traumatize them, and in the worst case, plant the idea for some of them.

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[3Hotdogs]

1. As effective as the nuclear bomb drills.... They went something like,

Go in the hall and sit down next to the wall, away from a door with glass.

Tuck your head between your legs and

Kiss Your Ass, Goodbye.

[WinstonSmith4740]

11. Remember them like it was yesterday.

And I can still remember my friends and me in the hallways/schoolrooms whispering back and forth about KNOWING it would do no good. And we were 10.

[Texaswitchy]

17. We were in a hallway with lots of windows.

It was an old brick school.

Thankfully this nonsense stopped in the 4th grade.

[CrispyQ]

2. "Now it's time to have some fun!"

WTF? A kid doesn't just switch from a life-threatening, terrifying moment to let's have fun.

[demmiblue]

3. I think teachers have attempted to de-traumatize these drills as much as possible...

hence that line. I'm sure they don't want to have to do the drills, either.

[uponit7771]

4. omfg, what the fck is this ?! "have some fun" ??!?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

7. Teacher is doing their best to not traumatize kids.

From that sign, it's clearly early elementary. What do you want them to say? "Hope when we have a shooter you don't get shot in the face"?

We (teachers) know that these drills are traumatizing and need to do the best we can. I'm lucky I teach high school, but even then those drills cause a LOT of anxiety. I try to have fun with kids after to calm them down.

[uponit7771]

9. +1, yeah from a teachers perspective what are people supposed to do?! Are your door entries ...

... locked and with a camera?

Looks like at minimum the states that have lax gun laws should fund schools to have security

[pattyloutwo]

5. I agree with Chris

The drills normalize shootings; I hope there will be a movement to end them. And please vote out the Republican Senators so we can get some laws and protection from assault rifles.

[spinbaby]

6. I was thinking about this this morning

I dropped my grandson off at school this morning and thought about the possibility of a shooter. My grandson is severely autistic and attends a school for children with profound learning disabilities. At nine years old, he doesn’t understand what a school shooting is and neither do many of his classmates. He can’t hide and stay quiet because he doesn’t know what that is. Many of the children in his school are in wheelchairs. An active shooter drill at this school would do little but scare the children who do understand what’s going on, but wouldn’t particularly make any of them any safer.

[Novara]

8. Apt point: today's shooters likely had lockdown drills when they were younger and know where to aim

[Sunsky]

10. I disagree

I believe they do work. They prepare the students and teachers on how to proceed when faced with the real event and help to reduce chaos. Mass chaos will lead to more casualties. It's unreasonable to think any single act will totally prevent the loss of life but a combination of actions will save some lives. We do these drills at work and I have children in school as well. These drills suck but they are necessary. I don't know how they are done everywhere but in Broward Co. FL., drills are announced as such. Parents also receive a text before and after each drill. I believe this will help to alleviate some of the negative emotional costs and the parents can discuss it with their children when they get home.
Chris should know better because I've watched his program after several school shootings where the students and teachers credit these lockdown drills for saving lives. To compare these to nuclear bomb drills is ludicrous because school shootings have a higher probability of occurring. Thus, through experience, these drills are constantly being reassessed and improved.

[IronLionZion]

12. Security theater makes us less safe

Frankly I'd rather make it harder to get guns. Make them jump through hoops instead of traumatizing kids and teaching them how to evade countermeasures.

When a douchebag shoots up his own school, he's likely to know where the security is and how to get around it.

[Initech]

15. At this point, I just want the Q nuts to admit what it is they actually do to save children.

Because this week's shooting proves that they haven't done, or aren't doing jack shit to save children. In fact, their wild ideas and policies are actually making things worse.

[IronLionZion]

18. They won't admit it even when so many in GOP have been busted for abusing children

because Qanon are part of the problem, never the solution. GOP are blocking the solution to school shootings.

[Wounded Bear]

13. But it makes the repubs and the GRAs feel better...nt

[jalan48]

14. We're raising a generation of fearful children. Fearful citizens are easier to control

“No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear”, wrote the 18th century philosopher Edmund Burke.

Ruling classes for thousands of years have understood the power of intentionally invoking fear in their subjects as a means of social control.

https://academyofideas.com/2015/11/fear-and-social-control/

[ck4829]

16. A modern-day Ring around the Rosie