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Nevilledog

(51,121 posts)
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:34 PM May 2022

Dan Patrick bravely comes out against doors because it's never about the guns.



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Dan Patrick bravely comes out against doors because it’s never about the guns.

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Texas Lt Gov Dan Patrick on "hardening" schools: "There should be one entrance in and one entrance out in all of our elementary and all of our middle schools. They're small enough to do that. There should be only one way in, and that should be a well protected entrance."
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Dan Patrick bravely comes out against doors because it's never about the guns. (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
I'm sure that would be against fire escape specifications. Karadeniz May 2022 #1
They could still have fire exits ... Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #4
Yes, or doors that only open outward.... Karadeniz May 2022 #7
right- so an alarm goes off helping the gunman find those trying to escape Beaverhausen May 2022 #8
At this point, better-secured schools is the only practical option Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #12
If only we had an example of people entering through an exit-only or locked door... Nevilledog May 2022 #15
Lol, true ... Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #16
Also, the Aurora, Colorado shooting ThoughtCriminal May 2022 #17
No they couldn't he said one way in AND ONE WAY OUT dsc May 2022 #18
Dan Patrick Says 'Sick' United States Can't Be Fixed 'Without Turning to Gawd' Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2022 #2
To be fair, that IS why Gawd was invented in the first place Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #9
Oh, damn, that's good thinking. That wat, the students don't have an alternate way out! napi21 May 2022 #3
Well, at least they're buckling. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #5
Ya let's trap all the kids in a building with no exit. Gregory Peccary May 2022 #6
"...that should be a well protected entrance." Paladin May 2022 #10
Dan Patrick proves the phrase........"Stupid is Still Stupid" Stuart G May 2022 #11
what about supermarkets? Harden those too? Office parks, post offices, ... Blues Heron May 2022 #13
They won't be satisfied until there's armed guards everywhere. Wednesdays May 2022 #14
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. They could still have fire exits ...
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:39 PM
May 2022

You know, the kind of door with a sign saying that an alarm will sound if you open it?

I've seen those around in my day.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. At this point, better-secured schools is the only practical option
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:54 PM
May 2022

I don't LIKE IT, but it needs to be taken, given that RePuQ's in power are evil assholes.

Point is you CAN have only one way in, but still have emergency exits.

My mention of alarms was just to illustrate a familiar concept, i.e we've all seen such doors in our lives. In this context, it might make more sense to just have alarms that alert the school administrators (like, in The Office), rather than blare out.

We humans have developed that sort of technology now

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
17. Also, the Aurora, Colorado shooting
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:50 PM
May 2022

"Police said that Holmes bought a ticket, entered the theater, and sat in the front row. About 20 minutes into the film, he left theater 9 through an emergency exit door beside the movie screen, with direct access to the lightly used parking area at the back of the complex, while propping the door slightly open with a plastic tablecloth holder."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora,_Colorado_shooting

dsc

(52,162 posts)
18. No they couldn't he said one way in AND ONE WAY OUT
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

a fire door would be a 2nd way out, which is, last I checked, more than one.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
9. To be fair, that IS why Gawd was invented in the first place
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:45 PM
May 2022

It was all about cutting down on the costs of security for the rulers of the day.

If you convince the entire populace that they are being watched and judged by an all-knowing and all-powerful magical authority figure, you don't have to pay as many actual guards and soldiers and such to secure your kingdom.

It's a brilliant way to take advantage of the fact that A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FUCKING STUPID.

Even today, guys like Patrick refuse to give up on the con. It's proven effective historically after all ...

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. Oh, damn, that's good thinking. That wat, the students don't have an alternate way out!
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:38 PM
May 2022

Maaybe locking all the doors except the main one? Maybe make those other doors on;y able to be opened from the inside?

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
10. "...that should be a well protected entrance."
Thu May 26, 2022, 12:48 PM
May 2022

Hey, Dan: There are some law enforcement types in Uvalde who won't be able to meet that standard. Their guns are still all shiny, and their magazines are all full. They might make a show of keeping a school entrance safe in the future---just don't look for them if a class full of kids is in danger. If the teachers promise you that they'll stay away from critical race theory, maybe they can help out. You fucking asshole.

Blues Heron

(5,938 posts)
13. what about supermarkets? Harden those too? Office parks, post offices, ...
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:14 PM
May 2022

lets face it these massacres happen all over the place. We wont be securing our way out of this mess until we deal with the root cause - the availablity of guns.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
14. They won't be satisfied until there's armed guards everywhere.
Thu May 26, 2022, 01:21 PM
May 2022

You know, like the beginning of a police state.

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