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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust watched Cruz and others saying that locking doors at schools would solve the problem of
shootings in America.
But what about the grocery store in Buffalo?
What about the Tree of Life Synagogue?
What about The Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church?
I could go on, but I'm sure you get my point. Everything they propose is a bandaid over a gaping wound. It's the gun culture we have in America held by a minority that fetish's guns. Mainly the AR 15.
AR 15s ARE NOT hunting rifles! They are NOT good for self protection! Let me explain.
AR 15s are usually chambered for 5.56 Nato round. Unlike a .22 long rifle that lives a small and less lethal straight in wound, 5.56 Nato round where designed to cavitate upon entering the body. Which means the round brakes up in body and spirals around making a far larger and lethal wound. If it hits in the shoulder or leg, it will take them off. It was made for 1 hit 1 kill.
I have read that the effective range is between 600 to 800 meters. Have heard the round could travel 2 1/2 miles if you fire weapon on a incline. Not sure about that one. So if one fired an AR 15 at say an intruder and miss, that round could very well end up hit neighbors blocks away and killing them. Unlike a 9mm with an effective range of 50 yards.
As for hunting with it. When I was a child, having Sunday dinner at my grandparents house, the CBS news was on the TV. They where interviewing a guy out hunting in Texas. He had an AK47 and 9mm on his hip. Asked why about hunting with an AK47 he said "I like to get a few extra shots off if I miss". Asked about the 9mm he said "just in case I run into some bad guys". My grandfather had used to be an avid hunter, harrumphed from the couch and said "he's not hunter he's a amateur". He said if you need more than one shot to take down game you should have your guns taken away.
I will now step down from the pulpit.
applegrove
(118,682 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,827 posts)AR-15 style rifle... the majority preferred weapon for killing schoolchildren.
Novara
(5,843 posts)Even the cops are too chickenshit. So where the FUCK does that leave us?
Another thing? Hearing how profoundly lethal these things are, I can't begin to imagine what happened inside that small classroom. I can't imagine the horror of a parent having to provide DNA to identify their child because there is nothing recognizable left. Of their child. Their baby. Their hopes and dreams. All gone in a bloody mess.
I am against displaying photos of the carnage to the public but I'm all for forcing republicans to look at them. Every motherfucker that votes against any gun bill should be forced to look at a never-ending slideshow of these murder scenes. Pin them down and force their eyes to stay open and lock their head in place so they can't look at anything else. MAKE them see the death and destruction of little lives that they endorse.
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kimbutgar
(21,160 posts)Obviously Cancun Cruz did not think any further into his stupid comment.
ProfessorGAC
(65,069 posts)I don't want to defend that worm Cruz, in any way.
But, in the 15 schools in which I sub, ALL doors are locked until the end of the school day.
They can all be opened from the inside for emergency egress. But, there's no just pulling the door open & wandering into the school.
Now, since almost all the doors are glass, they wouldn't stop an armed & determined to do evil person.
But, gunshots & broken glass noise just to get in might provide some time for people in the school to get out, take cover, lock & barricade classroom doors, etc.
I loathe Cruz, but I do think the doors should have been locked.
kimbutgar
(21,160 posts)I was thinking of another politician who said there should only be one door to the school. Got the repuke monster wrong.
I also work as a sub and we have the school locked down. The only time the gates are open is In the am and pm when the kids one and then leave the school at the end of the day. We also have cameras installed at all the exits.
ProfessorGAC
(65,069 posts)...is a blithering idiot.
A fire starts & a thousand kids have to exit through one door? That's prolifically stupid.
kimbutgar
(21,160 posts)Link to tweet
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ProfessorGAC
(65,069 posts)Emile
(22,789 posts)sop
(10,192 posts)Guided night hunts have become a big thing in places like Texas, Georgia and other states with large feral pig populations. Groups of hunters are taken out into farmers' fields to shoot wild hogs rooting up crops after dark.
Hunts are recorded. Hunters wear military-style night vision goggles so they can spot their prey in the dark. The AR rifles are equipped with expensive night scopes with video cams attached to record the action. Youtube is full of these videos
Typically, hunters empty magazine after magazine, killing as many hogs as they can, as quickly as they can pull the trigger. AR-15 and AR-10 rifles are preferred for their rapid rate of fire, high capacity and effectiveness in killing these tough animals.
The action is described as "like being in battle." No doubt some of these "hunters" even fantasize about shooting at large groups of people.
WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT: If you don't want to see hogs killed, don't watch.
Me.
(35,454 posts)and someone had to open it to let the border patrol agent in
mzmolly
(50,996 posts)What a fugging idiot.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)So, public school for the poors and the browns and the not affluent whites is
1) prison
2) a sweatshop
On March 25, 1911, the Triangle Shirtwaist Company factory in New York City burned, killing 146 workers. It is remembered as one of the most infamous incidents in American industrial history, as the deaths were largely preventablemost of the victims died as a result of neglected safety features and locked doors within the factory building.
The Triangle factory, owned by Max Blanck and Isaac Harris, was located in the top three floors of the Asch Building in Manhattan. It was a true sweatshop, employing young immigrant women who worked in a cramped space at lines of sewing machines. Nearly all the workers were teenaged girls who did not speak English and worked 12 hours a day, every day. In 1911, there were four elevators with access to the factory floors, but only one was fully operational and the workers had to file down a long, narrow corridor in order to reach it. There were two stairways down to the street, but one was locked from the outside to prevent stealing and the other only opened inward. The fire escape was so narrow that it would have taken hours for all the workers to use it, even in the best of circumstances.
Great plan, Cancun Cruz.
demigoddess
(6,641 posts)No guts whatsoever.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)It's all the doors fault.