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Nevilledog

(51,120 posts)
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:24 PM May 2022

The shooter in Uvalde, TX shot 38 kids & adults. Why is this being ignored in reporting?



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Tricia S.💛
@29Sinclair
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May 26, 2022
The shooter in Uvalde, TX shot 38 kids & adults; 21 died & 17 wounded. I watched this coverage & it was not until second day of coverage that the number wounded was released. Still not seeing the total # shot being mentioned. Are officials/politicians trying to control the story?

Tricia S.💛
@29Sinclair
Where’s the updates on the 17 wounded & hospitalized. Why no regular status reports on their condition? Is this information being suppressed by officials & politicians?
7:45 AM · May 26, 2022



Any lower number is better?. Is that the angle????
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The shooter in Uvalde, TX shot 38 kids & adults. Why is this being ignored in reporting? (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
I Guess The Injured Who Didn't Die Are Irrelevant To Them SoCalDavidS May 2022 #1
Maybe it's against hippa to discuss hospitalized patients. jimfields33 May 2022 #3
They can give the number of wounded without sharing any private health info IronLionZion May 2022 #9
And usually the hospital will have a trained spokesperson on the payroll Mr.Bill May 2022 #18
only giving their names and personal info. mopinko May 2022 #49
"Any lower number is better?. Is that the angle????" FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #2
The NYT had an article about Las Vegas shooting Retrograde May 2022 #17
One man, 38 shots ... Xoan May 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #26
It's definitely deliberate. maxsolomon May 2022 #5
Read for comprehension much? dpibel May 2022 #25
"Lower numbers are better" isn't much of a reason maxsolomon May 2022 #34
Neville dog was 'just asking a question'. I hadn't heard that there WERE injured until now. 70sEraVet May 2022 #38
Actually to minimize the importance in people's minds lower numbers ARE better. Tommymac May 2022 #50
I'm Just Disgusted With The Information That The Texans Have Been Providing To The Public..... global1 May 2022 #6
They're Republicans. Of course they're not telling the full truth. Lonestarblue May 2022 #15
+1000. nt ecstatic May 2022 #40
I brought that up yesterday. Twenty people didn't get killed doc03 May 2022 #7
Every single Texas Asshat spoke of Mental Health, or God. Claire Oh Nette May 2022 #10
And I also noticed that even with the heavy Latino population Mr.Bill May 2022 #20
Most of the Hispanic families who live in rural Texas have been there for generations. They are not Trailrider1951 May 2022 #36
I'm familiar with living in a place where many of the Latino population Mr.Bill May 2022 #37
They must think Latinos haven't heard about God yet IronLionZion May 2022 #30
The GOP owned media carefully controls the propaganda. Irish_Dem May 2022 #8
he didnt even see them as people. BootinUp May 2022 #11
How many were crisis actors? IronLionZion May 2022 #12
Red states love to hide details involving things that are inconvenient for them, like they did yaesu May 2022 #13
There is so much wrong with this on so many levels. Where to begin. c-rational May 2022 #14
Media NEVER Traildogbob May 2022 #16
cowards all llashram May 2022 #19
Abbott is busy checking to see if the killer used a rifle n/t malaise May 2022 #21
I smell refuKKKchicken refuckery... bringthePaine May 2022 #22
K&R Solly Mack May 2022 #23
Im pretty much a news junkie TheDemsshouldhireme May 2022 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #32
I've been asking about wounded since day one. herding cats May 2022 #27
Another child died today. Nevilledog May 2022 #29
I hadn't seen that yet. herding cats May 2022 #31
Yes, yes they are. 2naSalit May 2022 #28
There appears to be a shitload of non information going on.... spanone May 2022 #33
Everything about this is being suppressed until someone speaks up Novara May 2022 #35
My MIL who worked at a school said there's a Texas law that says only 21 students Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #39
I read there were connected classrooms. 2 teachers were killed. Nevilledog May 2022 #41
Or they may have been gathered to watch a movie, have a party, or Ilsa May 2022 #46
The NRA convention is in TX this weekend. Abbott, who is a speaker, Tanuki May 2022 #42
I wish a hundred thousand people would surround their venue and gun fetishists had to walk Magoo48 May 2022 #52
This is a powder keg on a lot of levels, IMO. slightlv May 2022 #43
All so true what you said! I live in central TX... Here's what I have Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #45
Yes, it used to be a federal problem for the ranchers, employers, etc. Ilsa May 2022 #47
If it helps them, personally... it's all well and fine. slightlv May 2022 #48
Abbott needs this to go away Skittles May 2022 #44
Obviously it is being reported or you wouldn't know about it. BannonsLiver May 2022 #51

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. I Guess The Injured Who Didn't Die Are Irrelevant To Them
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:28 PM
May 2022

And like you said, the powers that be probably feel that a lower overall total # impacted makes it look less bad than it was.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
18. And usually the hospital will have a trained spokesperson on the payroll
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:35 PM
May 2022

who is qualified to disperse information without violating the law.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
2. "Any lower number is better?. Is that the angle????"
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:30 PM
May 2022

Always is.

Remember how many in Vegas, 50+ dead and hundreds wounded. Killed by a tRumphumping gun hoarder . Look how fast that went away

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
17. The NYT had an article about Las Vegas shooting
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:29 PM
May 2022

about a month after it happened. They interviewed several of the people who were shot but survived. It was scary reading: those interviewed included people who were paralyzed by the gunshots and will never walk again, and would require extensive surgeries and therapies to have even a stab at a "normal" life again. We forget these people even more quickly than we forget the dead when the next week's shooter makes the headlines.

Response to Xoan (Reply #4)

dpibel

(2,832 posts)
25. Read for comprehension much?
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:16 PM
May 2022

The OP suggested that the motivation for lack of coverage was that lower numbers are better.

It's the last line of the OP.

So I'm pretty sure that's the answer to your question, "Why do YOU think it is being 'ignored'?"

As for the giant conspiracy and racist part, well, I've no idea where that came from other than your fertile imagination.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
34. "Lower numbers are better" isn't much of a reason
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:43 PM
May 2022

for such a giant coordinated media conspiracy. What would be the benefit of that? Who benefits?

And regardless, it's posed as a question.

My imagination is not the one that's fertile. DU is often awash is speculation like this.

70sEraVet

(3,503 posts)
38. Neville dog was 'just asking a question'. I hadn't heard that there WERE injured until now.
Thu May 26, 2022, 05:10 PM
May 2022

I had assumed that the guy was only in one classroom, and murdered all the kids and teachers in that room. Seems pretty reasonable to wonder why that part of the story was not being covered.
And we know from the recent pandemic that Republicans tend to downplay numbers if it suits their agenda.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
50. Actually to minimize the importance in people's minds lower numbers ARE better.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:53 PM
May 2022

The controlled M$M is doing it's job of obfuscating and 'splaining for the blood thirsty NRA, the death loving GQP, and all their murderous supporters.

And yes, I meant the adjectives.



#GUNSKILLPEOPLE

global1

(25,252 posts)
6. I'm Just Disgusted With The Information That The Texans Have Been Providing To The Public.....
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:39 PM
May 2022

It almost seems like they are covering up the info and they are not being very transparent. The story keeps changing.

They didn't protect the school and the kids.

Just who are Abbott and his people protecting.

doc03

(35,345 posts)
7. I brought that up yesterday. Twenty people didn't get killed
Thu May 26, 2022, 02:41 PM
May 2022

and no one gets injured seemed very strange. If it is true 38 were shot I have never heard that before. I have never seen one of these mass murders when injured victims are not even mentioned. It's always at least so many are dead and so many are in intensive care. Has the media been told to minimize the casualties by someone?

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
10. Every single Texas Asshat spoke of Mental Health, or God.
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:16 PM
May 2022

They stood on that stage like something out of a bad movie, all bluster and hoss and mob mentality.
Beto was Col Sherburn--coolly calling that mob out for the cowards they are.


"The pitifulest thing out is a mob; that’s what an army is—a mob; they don’t fight with courage that’s born in them, but with courage that’s borrowed from their mass, and from their officers. But a mob without any man at the head of it, is beneath pitifulness.”


Huck Finn

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
20. And I also noticed that even with the heavy Latino population
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:38 PM
May 2022

in that community I haven't seen a Spanish interpreter at the press conferences.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
36. Most of the Hispanic families who live in rural Texas have been there for generations. They are not
Thu May 26, 2022, 05:03 PM
May 2022

recent immigrants. Pretty much everybody speaks English as well as Spanish, except for Abuela (Grandmother). Remember, Texas was part of Mexico before it became a republic and then a state.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
37. I'm familiar with living in a place where many of the Latino population
Thu May 26, 2022, 05:09 PM
May 2022

was here before non-Latino European settlers. It's called California. My high school graduation ceremony in San Jose was done in two languages in '71. There are still many recent immigrants that don't have much command of the English language. What inspired my post was at the end of the press conference there was a Spanish speaking Journalist who was saying something and was ignored. It there is Latino press there, there are Spanish speaking people watching.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
30. They must think Latinos haven't heard about God yet
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:23 PM
May 2022


No mention of what the kill count would be if a mentally ill Godless person didn't have guns.

IronLionZion

(45,450 posts)
12. How many were crisis actors?
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:17 PM
May 2022

MAGA/Q folks have stated that his nice truck (stolen from grandparents) is proof he's a well compensated part of a Dem conspiracy to take guns away.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
13. Red states love to hide details involving things that are inconvenient for them, like they did
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:22 PM
May 2022

with covid deaths.

c-rational

(2,593 posts)
14. There is so much wrong with this on so many levels. Where to begin.
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:27 PM
May 2022

We (Dems) need to target specific reThuglicans in weak districts.
We need to be loud and emotional in our messaging like Beto- it works best.
We need to be relentless in calling out the lunacy of suggesting more armed people. Our histoy and the wild west is all we needd to know it does not work.

Traildogbob

(8,748 posts)
16. Media NEVER
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:28 PM
May 2022

Covers or follows up on NON LIFE THREATENING injuries in any of these national shootings. Like it is no big deal. Just like all the Westerns were they get a bullet boo boo and everything is fine after ya put a bandana on it. In reality, those injuries could include, brain damage, shattered jaw where victim has a feeding tube for life, facial disfigurement, blinded, multiple organ damage, need a liver transplant, on dialysis for life, have a colostomy bag for life, shattered hip, knees, ankles and crippled for life, or in Rittenhouse murders, lose a limb. No big deal, no lose of life so everything is great. Show me a list of non life threatening injuries from guns. It will be triple at minimal of the annual deaths by guns.
And did ya see All those Cowboy hats with heavy armor and big guns, without a single ball in the crowd???? All Hat No Balls. The typical Republican asshole with a gun.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
19. cowards all
Thu May 26, 2022, 03:38 PM
May 2022

in MSM. They need to keep options open. They want the drama of the dead. The wounded? Just doesn't matter to these drama kings and queens. Plus they really don't want the average American armed with the whole truth and nothing but the truth. They always start spinning immediately. And people like Ingraham and Carlson are just evil, pathetic little worms.

24. Im pretty much a news junkie
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:11 PM
May 2022

and this is the first i heard of that, and I was just talking to a co-worker about this, no graphic on number wounded. To me, its pretty easy to pickup that Texas is the one playing politics with this. The day after this massacre, the guy from Texas Safety was on the today show and wouldn't even say the type of weapon was involved. It didnt take a rocket scientist to figure out it was an assault rifle and I was thinking 15 hours later and you cant identify the weapon by looking at it? Im googling this and am having a hard time getting a figure on the number shot, what gives?

Response to TheDemsshouldhireme (Reply #24)

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
27. I've been asking about wounded since day one.
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:17 PM
May 2022

It wasn't until today I finally saw an article on a San Antonio network mentioning the number of wounded. I knew there were wounded due to a report on one little girl who had surgery, survived and needs a second surgery. Yet, there has been zero mention of the other victims of the gunman.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
31. I hadn't seen that yet.
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:24 PM
May 2022

Poor little baby. One of the unreported wounded is now added to the reported total of those murdered.

How can they think ignoring the total number of victims was going to not be noticed?

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
28. Yes, yes they are.
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:18 PM
May 2022

They can't come up with a believable explanation as to why they didn't take action for an hour and why they held the parents back, which they would not have needed to do if they were taking appropriate action. They never pass up an opportunity to beat on people.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
33. There appears to be a shitload of non information going on....
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:34 PM
May 2022

CNN saying they can't even get a timeline of what happened on the day of.....

Novara

(5,843 posts)
35. Everything about this is being suppressed until someone speaks up
Thu May 26, 2022, 04:47 PM
May 2022

This is untenable.

Every single thing the "officials" have said from the start of this has been wrong or lies or a cover-up job until a witness comes with the receipts. How can this community EVER trust anyone in a position of authority ever again?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
39. My MIL who worked at a school said there's a Texas law that says only 21 students
Thu May 26, 2022, 05:19 PM
May 2022

Can be in a classroom. Maybe this has changed. It's supposedly shooting only happened in one classroom. Sounds like it must have been way over the limit.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
46. Or they may have been gathered to watch a movie, have a party, or
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:41 PM
May 2022

something, which is typical the last one or two days of school, if they've been able to finish instruction hours, testing, etc.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
42. The NRA convention is in TX this weekend. Abbott, who is a speaker,
Thu May 26, 2022, 05:23 PM
May 2022

probably wants to limit the horrific publicity in any way possible.

Magoo48

(4,716 posts)
52. I wish a hundred thousand people would surround their venue and gun fetishists had to walk
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:08 PM
May 2022

through the crowd to get in.

slightlv

(2,818 posts)
43. This is a powder keg on a lot of levels, IMO.
Thu May 26, 2022, 06:26 PM
May 2022

First, it's Texas. And Abbot. And the NRA.
Second, we've had it up to --here-- with all these gun deaths of all kinds, but especially these insidious mass shootings. Everyone knows it. It's not just "own the libs"... it's owning the repugs, too. When the NRA is even afraid to have guns at their own conventions, you KNOW something is wrong! (LOL)

Third, there are no updates because this is Texas and Uvalde. Of course, it's racist. The kids are mostly, if not all, Hispanic. It doesn't make any difference if there first, second, third, or 10th generation American. They're still Hispanic. To make matters worse, the shooter is Hispanic. You've got people rooting for death all the way around. And maybe that's why this one hits me so hard. I love the Hispanic culture. My daughter and I were all but adopted into an Hispanic family after a very ugly divorce. Three generations under one roof... what were two more people living there! They made us feel like we had always been a part of the family. Other than the emphasis on the Catholic religion, I loved everything about the culture. We are so much poorer as people when we turn away from cultures other than our own. So much to learn; so much to know about ourselves and our past.

Abbott is probably hoping for a greater loss of life, IMO. If not loss of life, a greater number of deportations. He'd like to clear out all of the Valley. That way, he could build Trump's Wall and deploy any number of missiles or armaments. He doesn't like the fact there's movement of families from both sides of the border, Hispanic, black, mestizo, and white. It's all just too messy for him. And that's their whole problem.

They only see the whole world in colors of black and white. There are no shades of grey. Doesn't make any difference whether it's in terms of culture, people, or policy. It's either A or it's B. It's either Right or it's Left. It's either Correct or it's Wrong. There's no "if this" then "that". They brains can't handle situations that don't fit outside that type of paradigm. They can't think outside the box! They wouldn't know creativity if it came up behind them and bit them in the butt!!!


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
45. All so true what you said! I live in central TX... Here's what I have
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:37 PM
May 2022

Never understood since I moved here... My husband's parents had illegals working on their ranch. So do lots of other people. Yet they are treated well in the community. Even got drivers licenses ( sure to help with ranching) no problem.

All that said, the very same people who seem to hate immigrants like Abbott et al are not doing anything to stop the ranchers from hiring illegals. They just turn a blind eye. But the other eye is sending troops to the border. This contradiction is so confusing.
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Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
47. Yes, it used to be a federal problem for the ranchers, employers, etc.
Thu May 26, 2022, 11:45 PM
May 2022

Employers were required to follow laws, etc. But I think it was dismantled in the 1970s.

slightlv

(2,818 posts)
48. If it helps them, personally... it's all well and fine.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:53 AM
May 2022

If it doesn't... it's just the same old game. That's the only way I can see it. It has to hit them personally, one way or another. And it tells me I've just become way to cynical in my old age.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
51. Obviously it is being reported or you wouldn't know about it.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:54 PM
May 2022

It was mentioned multiple times today during presser. I first heard it early yesterday on NPR.

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