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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe all should wait to all the facts come in about the shooting.
Too much false information has come out about what took place. First the shooter was confronted, now he was not. There was a security officer at the school, now they are saying no. There must be videos they can look at and piece things together. That will take a little time.
We will learn how long it took the cops to respond and what they did when they got there. Right now it's chaos.
ck4829
(35,077 posts)Nevilledog
(51,121 posts)So, are we supposed to wait for the FBI to investigate.
I'm going to keep posting the ever increasing pile of lies the cops are providing.
MontanaMama
(23,322 posts)will obstruct and cover up facts pointing to their incompetence. This needs to blow up sooner rather than later.
walkingman
(7,628 posts)want to believe. You can bet the DPS, Texas Rangers, Abbott and other members of the GOP will never admit fault. Hell, they won't even admit they lost the Presidency. Texas is a shithole.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)We need to remember that this is small town, Texas, and the local authorities are not used to having to answer to anyone. They are used to putting out a story and that is the end of things because thats how theyve operated for generations and thats how they still do things down there.
This is the first time that the mayor and law enforcement in Uvalde have had National and international media breathing down their necks. They are in new territory and they do not like to be questioned.
We need factual and accurate information. No argument from me. But those families deserve to have all of their questions answered to the fullest extent possible and I am glad the media is there to make sure that happens. Because if the press was not there, the good ole boy network would just tell it like they wanted it to be.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)We will believe some things that will turn out not to be true. It's already happened. We were told there was a security guard at the school. It's best to wait at times like this. I am as angry as everyone else.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Did you see that clusterfuck of a press conference this afternoon? If we "wait [for] all the facts [to] come in," we'll still be sitting here with our thumbs up our asses months from now, without any answers. And by that time, every filthy Republican, from trump and cruz up to Abbott and Patrick, will have had a chance to add their own lies and perversions to the facts, and nothing will change for the better. Instead, let's keep the pressure on, let's ask questions, let's get in contact with our representatives, and let's see if we can do something good, to honor the memory of those little children and their teachers.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It looks really bad for the cops. Waiting for an hour before going in? But it's all mass confusion now. A lot of guessing going on right now. If I were to guess right now I would say the cops were waiting for swat to arrive, which is nuts. I just don't know.
The worst thing the cops can do now is lie. If there were major failures they should come out and admit it. Right now they acting like they are lying, but I don't know.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)It's been reported it was Border Patrol who came and went in. However, there were also local PD inside as well. And the BO officer who shot and killed the shooter, he worked at a detention center near by and was off duty. Does that sound like SWAT to you? Maybe what you should be asking for is for the PD and TX govt officials to get their shit straight and stop holding campaign ad press conferences with all their doners standing behind them.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)It's total chaos.
OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,384 posts)Gov abbott's office is controlling the messaging.
He has the upcoming NRA convention to worry about, not to mention the millions the NRA gives to abbott & his repub buddies to keep a lid on the massacre in Uvalde.
Bottom line is abbott & his Texas DPS have no interest in prolonging this story.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I don't know if that's true. That sounds insane. That's why I am going to wait till somebody down there gets their act together. The cops better find someone who knows how to handle a news conference because this is total chaos.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Which will be in what? A week? A month?
Then tell us it's time to "Move on".