The cops that were keeping parents away all had

[Beachnutt]

on tactical gear and carried assault rifles so why were they not in the school engaging the killer ?

[elleng]

1. They knew their gear could not protect them from his weapons,

and didn't have the courage to proceed anyway.

[Tickle]

3. imagine living with that

a 8 year old is dead because you were a coward.

[elleng]

4. I won't call them 'cowards,'

most would likely feel similarly, but rather mis-placed in their jobs; not many heroes around.

[Demsrule86]

21. Either they were cowards or they were not willing to save minority children or both I suppose.

[Diablo del sol]

42. feel the same way

I have run into situations where people were fighting to break things up. That is much different to running into a situation where I could be shot.

Goes back to the root cause, it is guns along with the ignorant belief that the vast majority of people, including LE, are born heroes.

[TheBlackAdder]

32. I bet all were thinking, "Man, I don't want to go in there. I have a Mem Day cookout this weekend."

.

I want to eat, drink and honor the people who did not fall in battle because they were scared and hid.

.

[LiberalFighter]

46. Yep.

[TheBlackAdder]

31. What does it say about an AR-15 when scores of cops are too chicken shit to deal with one perp?

[ManiacJoe]

48. It says that an AR-15 is a rifle, and

none of the handgun-rated bullet-resistant vests will stop rounds from any rifle.

Yes, there are vests rated for rifle rounds, but no one wears them all day due to the bulk and weight. The SWAT team carries those vests in the truck.

[TheBlackAdder]

54. So the 16 SWAT guys were just circle-jerking after they showed up?

[ManiacJoe]

55. Have you seen reports of that?

[TheBlackAdder]

56. They were doing something for 45 mins.

[Emile]

5. I wonder how they would have acted at an all white school.

[2naSalit]

7. +1

[HipChick]

10. +100..

[BlackSkimmer]

13. You do know that one of the teachers killed was married to a police officer, right?

You do know that many of those cops had children in the school?

You do know that many of those cops were of the same color skin as the children, as other posters have pointed out in other threads?

Why keep doing this?

[Emile]

14. Why keep doing this? Actually it's the first time I made any post suggesting

that this could be a reason. Who do those cops take orders from?

[BlackSkimmer]

22. I don't mean you specifically. I keep seeing this narrative here.

I think the leadership of those cops has a lot to answer for, but I don't think racism was involved.

[Demsrule86]

18. They did nothing and actually prevented parents from doing anything...so your words mean

nothing to me. They allowed bleeding children who might have been saved with medical attention to lie in their own blood and did nothing...scum of the earth.

[BlackSkimmer]

23. My words might mean nothing to you, but it doesn't change the fact that cops had kids in that school

One cop's wife is a dead teacher. That mean anything to you?

[Demsrule86]

39. Was he there? And if he was and stayed outside while she died than he is a coward.

[BlackSkimmer]

44. I have no idea where he was. What a question.

Still has nothing to do with race.

[ForgedCrank]

20. I'm having a

very difficult time biting my tongue today and yesterday.
I keep telling myself I'm not going to be like that, especially right now, but it's not easy.

[Treefrog]

27. Same here.

People using dead children to push a narrative is abhorrent however.

[ZonkerHarris]

25. Then you'd think they would do a better job.

[dsc]

43. And they apparently went to rescue their children but did nothing to get into the classroom

the shooter was in.

[Demsrule86]

19. White supremacist cops? Were they unwilling to save minority children? They let the killer

enter the school...why not shoot him? And then did nothing for more than 40 minutes while children and their teachers bled to death...Moms gave their lives to save children and these cops did nothing. I hope they never have a peaceful day for the rest of their hopefully miserable lives.

[BlackSkimmer]

24. Most of the cops were not white.

Are you for real?

[Demsrule86]

36. The ones I saw were White... they sat in parking lot cowering while children died

and attacked the parents in the parking lot...they let the gunman into the school...a child died when they told to call before the shooter was dead...don't make excuses for these cops. they disgust me.

[BlackSkimmer]

45. Lol, numerous people have posted that the majority of the police were Hispanic.

Including the swat team. But hey, never mind that.

Which is it? You keep changing from racism to cowardice.

It’s obvious the police fucked up, but it’s nothing to do with race.

[Demsrule86]

47. They are cowards and all deserve to lose their jobs...don't care what color they were.

They left the kids and the children to die...that AR15 and body armor but they were so skeered...they need to find a new job. I hope they think about what thy didn't do forever.

[wnylib]

53. Probably not white supremacist cops.

The vast majority of the Uvalde population is Hispanic. Only about 15% Anglo. It's a Mexico/US border town.

[ManiacJoe]

49. You make it sound like the cops were not the same color as the students.

[Emile]

52. Just curious about the person who was in charge. I know

some of the cops were Hispanic.

[Tetrachloride]

6. Names. Get them.

[lpbk2713]

8. It made them look busy when they were herding away spectators.

That way they wouldn't expose themselves to gunfire.

[fightforfreedom]

9. Who was in charge, that's what I want to know.

It looks like nobody was in charge.

[Catherine Vincent]

15. Same here

Either no one was in charge or if someone was, who was it? Did this person tell them to stand down?

[nolabear]

11. What if those parents had all been carrying guns?

That’s what they want, right? If those frantic, terrified parents had all been armed I fear to think what the outcome would have been. Because those cops would have killed them too.

[Nevilledog]

37. Yup

Link to tweet

Tweet text:

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Marjorie Taylor Greene to Tucker: "We have to repeal the federal law [for] gun free school zones because the best thing that we can do for our children is to protect them with good guys with guns."


Watch on Twitter
5:46 PM · May 26, 2022

[dalton99a]

40. Such crazy talk. The good guys with guns might get shot

[uponit7771]

12. The LEO from that area isn't making things better on CNN

[fescuerescue]

16. Everyone of those cops should be fired

Along with their leadership.

But they will probably pin medals on each other instead.

[Demsrule86]

17. There was a number of minority children at this school wasn't there...do you suppose this

is why they waited over 40 minutes before going in? Parents went in and rescued their kids themselves. These bastard cops handcuffed and in one case at least pepper-sprayed parents while allowing the murdering scum bag to kill children... was this because it was a school with many minorities in it?

[Claire Oh Nette]

30. Until they prove otherwise, yes, racism, too.

Why was border patrol there? To round up any parents?

[Demsrule86]

34. They attacked the parents and not the gunman... little girl bled for an hour while they

sat in the parking lot...could she have been saved? Maybe.

[ManiacJoe]

50. The BP officers were near by and able to respond to the request for help.

[haele]

26. Lack of leadership. They just stood by because no one wanted to take charge.

The shift commander should have been there, worked out a strategy, and deployed his officers. Heck, I'm sure someone in the neighborhood could have sent up a drone with a go-pro within 15 minutes if they wanted to assess the situation from a distance without sending a pair of officers to the back of the school to scope out the situation as I was freaking taught to do if responding to hostage situations in 1981 for security training.
Instead, they all wanted to wait until it was "safe" or someone with more firepower could get there.

Haele

[Demsrule86]

35. They were absolutely awful to the parents...it is a racial thing IMHO.

[ck4829]

28. ...

[Claire Oh Nette]

29. Yellow bellied, lily livered Coward is the word you're looking for...

[gulliver]

33. If the cops followed orders and procedure, they did the right thing.

They have the duty to enforce and enact an established, trained procedure for an active shooter situation. It doesn't matter how it seems. Well-planned, well-trained procedures are created to minimize loss. It would actually be wrong for the cops to allow parents to enter the building and right for them to prevent it if that's what the trained-in, planned response calls for.

It doesn't seem right, but it might be as right as it can be when the wrong in the situation is this bad. If the first responders didn't follow orders or trained-in procedures, then, yeah, blame them for that. If there were no procedures or leadership was lacking, then, in these times, we need to ask why.

I just don't think it's a good idea to take blame away from the obvious suspects, the gun industry, the NRA, and the now wholly morally unmoored Republican Party. They'd like us to blame the cops or anyone but them.

[milestogo]

38. Maybe they just like playing dress up.

But the actual shooting part, that's too scary.

[Emile]

41. My question is who was in charge?

[Crunchy Frog]

51. The thin yellow line.