Hear me out please. We may be focusing on the wrong part of gun reform.

[Samrob]

With the number of guns already in the hands of gun humpers, soon and very soon if legislation is enacted to limit sales and the legal age for purchasing guns, the NRA will be facing the "limits of growth and therefore the limits of profits. (I posted about this previously.)

They will have to come up with new ways to profit because these guns will out live their owners. We need to begin to think about legislation to limit the number of guns a person can own or possess. And there is no Constitutional right to own ammunition. I believe the NRA will be going forward with selling new kinds of ammunition as the quest for new guns begins to wane...and it will as current owners die and leave their weapons to their heirs who probably will have little desire for them. Thus, any legislation formulated should address the issue of ammunition by type, amounts, and lethality. We need to be ahead of this before there is a run on ammunition. Legislation for this could be enacted more rapidly they gun control. Thoughts?

[tanyev]

1. Valid point, but a lot of gun humpers have been hoarding ammo for a long time.

This is something they fear will happen.

[Samrob]

3. Doesn't mean we can't make it illegal to use. And if caught using it stiff penalties like imprisonm

[lapfog_1]

2. making your own ammunition

is not that hard to do.

When I was target shooting with a close friend... and we were poor... we would save the brass and re-use it to make new bullets.

not specialized bullets, but functional.

[WarGamer]

4. Everything you wrote would be found unconstitutional by THIS SCOTUS.

Restrictions on AMMO would be seen as a de facto gun ban... similar on paper to a tax on newspaper ink as a sideways attempt at curtailing 1A.

Courts recently overturned a 21 year age restriction...

I hate to be a wet blanket... but this is just circular discussion.

Change the SCOTUS or change the Constitution.

Those are the only choices and even then... there's the problem of 300 million guns already in circulation.

[Chainfire]

8. Exactly. There are no simple solutions to a complex problem.

As long as we have a right wing court, the right gets anything that they want. That is called Justice in America.

[Scrivener7]

5. Someone needs to bring a lawsuit to rescind the NRAs tax exempt status.

[Freddie]

6. Guns themselves could be made safer

Access code and I’m sure there’s other ways to keep children from using the gun. Of course the firearms industry flat refused to implement anything of this nature.

[Chainfire]

10. That would have had no effect on the recent massacre. The gun and ammo buys were perfectly legal.

That said, I would cheer on the parents if they burned the gun store to the ground. There is a big difference in legality and justice.

As far as electronic safeties on guns, one maker did market such a firearm and was quickly boycotted by the rest of the industry and gun stores refused to stock it. How dare anyone try to implement a safety device on a firearm....

[NickB79]

7. Ammunition is likely protected by the 2nd Amendment as well

Similar court cases regarding other constitutional rights, such as excess taxes on ink and paper for free speech, or poll taxes for voting, have been ruled unconstitutional as roundabout bans on said constitutional rights.

I can't find any specific cases about ammunition in general, but I'm sure the current USSC wouldn't allow most types of ammo to be banned. We already have various bans on certain types of armor-piercing rounds in handguns, but that's about all.

[Chainfire]

11. The only reason you have the ban on AP ammo for handguns is that they would defeat the

police vests of the time. It is OK to protect police, but not children.