My response to those wanting Ukraine to concede real estate to the Russians.

[rgbecker]

We've all now read that there are those suggesting Zelensky give territory to Putin to end the Russia's current aggression in Ukraine. The Donbas has about 4 million residents and the Crimea another 2.5. Much of both areas has be reduced to rubble. Maybe a better deal would be for Macron and Italy's Draghi to pick several cities in their countries and still and good shape, to trade off to Russia. They could do this without the bother of losing one soldier or civilian or school or hospital and I'm sure Putin would be overjoyed and surely will be dissuaded from ever using his threats of Nuclear weapons and bad boys from the east to gain any more real estate.

Kissinger, of course, has nothing to give up so nothing will shut him up. His reputation is already in the dumpster and nothing will clean up his record during the few years he has left. His ideas in the 60's and 70's cost thousands of lives and many lost far more than real estate. I guess he thinks other people's real estate is of no consequence.

[onecaliberal]

1. Here's mine. FUCK NO AND FUCK OFF.

[2naSalit]

10. +1

[dlk]

2. It's surprisingly easy for Kissinger to advocate for giving away another country's territory

It costs him nothing.

[2naSalit]

11. He has, in the past couple decades...

Made me wonder if he wasn't the inspiration for Jabba the Hut.

[dlk]

14. You never know

n/t

[haele]

3. Okay, my neighbor wants my garage that is a foot from our property line.

He shoots my dog in my backyard, wings my kid, burns down my fence which also burns my back bedroom.
Should I sue for peace, let bygones be bygones, and let him claim my garage?

Haele

[Irish_Dem]

4. Yes give Putin Paris and Rome.

Great idea.

And yes I agree 100%, Putin would be so overjoyed he would turn over a new leaf and the milk of human kindness would flow through his veins for ever more. Give up all his nukes and never covet anyone else's land ever again.

[True Dough]

5. Let's say the Russian military invaded Alaska

with Putin making claim that Alaska is still rightfully Russia's territory. He then says he's willing to withdraw as long as the U.S. cedes all of the Aleutian Islands to Russia.

The American government is going to say what? "Sure, Vlad, whatever you want, so long as we avoid war."

Yeah, right!

[IggleDuer]

7. TFG would have

N/T

[True Dough]

9. You're probably right

but he's a dunce and a traitor!

[keithbvadu2]

13. And Sarah Palin of course.

[SoonerPride]

16. He'd sell it

For a bag of magic beans

[raging moderate]

8. "When the Fuhrer says we is the Master Race,

Then we (****) (*****) right in the Fuhrer's Face!

Good for you, Ukraine.

[roamer65]

12. This war is is going to continue a lot longer.

I have this gut feeling it’s the start of WW3.

[rgbecker]

15. Hopefully NATO and the UN and the West will show some resolve...

Giving Zelensky what he needs to keep it contained within Ukraine. The world could learn a lot from the the Ukranians now about how to stand up to an imperialist dictator. It may take a while but clear resolve vs. confusion is what is needed.

[TomSlick]

17. It is difficult for me to understand the arrogance that is required for a non-Ukrainian

to tell the people of Ukraine that they must conceded anything to the Russians.

Ukraine was invaded in violation of every norm and international law. The Russian invasion has been nothing but a succession of the most blatant war crimes, civilians have been targeted and murdered in the tens of thousands, local political leaders have been disappeared, civilian infrastructure has been reduced to rubble. . . .

The Ukrainians are putting up a resistance that no one could have foreseen and destroyed a third of the Russian military.

What, if any, concessions are to be made to the Russians must be completely left to the Ukrainians. The Ukrainians alone have skin in the game. No one else has any right to tell Ukraine what to do.