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Is it just me, or does anyone else find the persistent use of the word balls to denote attributes like courage and integrity both sexist and vulgar? I mean, has anyone ever read Antigone? That play was written over 2,500 years ago. Antigone could tell a lot of people here to get some ovaries and get over themselves. Mallory McMorrow made an amazing speech calling out typical Republican chicanery and people here commented Wow! She has more balls than ____, (fill in the blank). She could rightfully say, My well meaning colleagues would do well to grow a pair of ovaries and stand up for what they know is right!
Can we please leave this vulgar, sexist usage behind?
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Check the ovaries on her....
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)....I like the sound of that!
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...the word is not even descriptively correct. The word "ball" refers to a round object. Neither are "round".
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)JanMichael
(24,895 posts)I get your point ovaries would be better. Balls to show courage is stupid and sexist.
mcar
(42,390 posts)Most of the men in charge (Republicans, I mean) are whiny cowards. Along with the sexism, the meaning is incorrect.
cachukis
(2,277 posts)Using the term is sexist. It is meant to be. Men are testosteroned and aggressive. Not always a wise perspective mind you, but a point of reference for anthropologists.
The fact that you respond in your way suggests that the user of the term has struck a chord.
Bravo, with your response.
33taw
(2,448 posts)stood by. I will go with ovaries.
Triloon
(506 posts)No matter how delicate you are about vulgarity it is never going away. But you've got some pretty heavy clappers on you to give it a try.
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)perpetuates meaningless garbage is another. We dont allow racial slurs, so why this?
Triloon
(506 posts)If the vulgar usage is meant to demean and devalue anything it is meant so towards the generative value of the male gonads. It ignores that value and celebrates the determined aggression in an individual that can also be produced from those glands. So "balls" is a euphemism, mostly comic rather than tragic. It is archaic.
If a male does something and someone remarks "wow, that took balls" it means admiration, acknowledgment, congratulation, and sometimes acceptance. If a female does something and someone says the same thing of her it then means the very same thing. Where is the sexist slur?
It can lean into the tragic euphemism if a male is told "You've got no balls". Then it is an insult, a challenge, a goad. If that same thing is said to a woman then it can hardly be taken seriously because the internal absurdity of it shines too bright as the metaphor breaks down. But if it is taken seriously then it is likewise an insult, a challenge, and a goad. So again, where is the sexist slur?
Maybe I'm not looking at this from the right angle at all. Maybe if you hear something like "She's got some balls to do that" you also hear something like "What a surprise. She did that as good as a man, or almost." I'm sorry if that's how it is. But honestly, I've never heard the word used like that.
Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)what it means but the only way you can define what it means is by referring to its implicit sexism. Your right, it is meaningless garbage.
No hard feelings. We just differ in our views on this.
You were talking about clappers . . .
Triloon
(506 posts)referring to the clapper inside a bell. "Balls"
Initech
(100,107 posts)Gaugamela
(2,496 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)"But that song was everywhere! The FBI blamed it for a rise in summer sex crimes!"
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)niyad
(113,600 posts)of times here on DU.
JCMach1
(27,578 posts)Language policing doesn't do it.
There has to be real cultural shift over time.