"It's like a fireman not going into a building because they might get burned,"

[Ferrets are Cool]

I asked my wife, who worked with the FD for 20 years this question. If a firefighter knows a person is in a building that is burning, will they go in there to save them no matter the chances of being burned.
Her answer was ALWAYS.
Not so much for the police, right? They might get shot.
Yes, I know this is a broad brush, but dayum.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. Cops have no legal duty to protect anyone. None. It's important to remember.

[hibbing]

2. Their job is to protect capital n/t

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. yep

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. Do firemen have a legal duty to go into burning homes? Did the firemen and women of 911

have a legal duty to run into buildings to save people? Am I conflating two different things?

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. .

No one can be compelled to provide aid unless there's a prior relationship (usually as in a doctor/patient or familial relationship). IIRC, there are a couple states that have laws that require a first responder to stop and try to help if they happen upon a scene off duty. It's just that the Supreme Court has found for cops specifically that they cannot be required to provide aid in a given situation.

[Ferrets are Cool]

10. Thanks

Doesn't make the turd smell any better though.

[pwb]

5. Every Father I know would have gone in the school and

thrown books at the guy if that is all they had.

[BlackSkimmer]

9. So would every mother.

Trust me on that one.

[gldstwmn]

12. That off duty Border Patrol agent borrowed a shotgun from his barber and rushed to the scene.

I can't stop thinking about that.

[iemanja]

6. police training for such incidents

says the police should go inside the building to stop the shooting. The Uvalde police had that training and violated it.

[gldstwmn]

13. Apparently surround and wait for SWAT was an old protocol from the last century.

I don't even know if that's what they were doing here though.

[Jilly_in_VA]

8. Or like healthcare workers

not going to work because they might get sick. Did they go to work during the pandemic? You damn betcha they did! Just fcuk these coward cops, every last one of them.

[gldstwmn]

11. They will go in and save pets! This is an excellent analogy.

It's like the fire department getting to the scene of a fire and deciding it's not worth it to put it out because fires just keep happening.