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Trump: Classroom doors should be hardened to make them lockable from the inside (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
Doofus Tucker08087 May 2022 #1
That would be funny if it wasn't so sad. walkingman May 2022 #2
Trump's base isn't very bright, he has to explain to them how doors work. Meadowoak May 2022 #3
To be fair, Trump was today years old when he learned how doors work. Nevilledog May 2022 #5
What should be lockable ... NanceGreggs May 2022 #4
So a student will sneak weapons into the classroom and lock a hardened door so he can kill the Martin68 May 2022 #6
There is a low cost mechanical solution exboyfil May 2022 #7
I Saw Another ProfessorGAC May 2022 #12
Trump is an idiot. Caliman73 May 2022 #8
Isnt that a violation of most fire codes? roamer65 May 2022 #9
what is the attendance number at this convention? wondering if it's sold out? IcyPeas May 2022 #10
"Hardening" is the latest NRA buzzword. sop May 2022 #11
So now they want to lobby for the security grumpyduck May 2022 #15
To be fair they don't all work that way dsc May 2022 #13
They come up with all kinds of 💩 Deuxcents May 2022 #14
Donny get your hurricane gun Blue Owl May 2022 #16
That fucking dunce has never been to malaise May 2022 #17
I'm not going to defend Trump. But my classroom door was retrofitted so that OrlandoDem2 May 2022 #18
They called that (and probably do still call it) "double-cylinder" deadbolt locks BumRushDaShow May 2022 #21
It must hurt to be that stupid SallyHemmings May 2022 #19
More hot air from the bloated gas bag. GoodRaisin May 2022 #20
So he wants airplane style security? Initech May 2022 #22

Martin68

(22,902 posts)
6. So a student will sneak weapons into the classroom and lock a hardened door so he can kill the
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:40 PM
May 2022

entire class at his leisure. Or the next shooter will blow the doors down with explosives. Gun nuts will always have a reason not to regulate guns, but will never offer a workable solution.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
7. There is a low cost mechanical solution
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:40 PM
May 2022

on the market for securing the door. It is basically a very hard stop placed inside a recess on the floor. If a teacher keeps it on their person, then it could serve as an additional barrier that can't readily be used by the gunman to barricade himself.

Not sure it is an improvement over a very good lock. The gunman could still get the device from the teacher.

ProfessorGAC

(65,230 posts)
12. I Saw Another
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:46 PM
May 2022

There's a metal plate with a hole sunk into the floor.
Attached the door is a slotted guide.
Rest next to the door is a "key" of sorts.
In a lockdown, you grab that "key" and slide it into the floor.
That whole thing can't cost more than $20.
Since the slide bolt isn't permanently part of the mechanism, rust or crud won't jam the mechanism.
I thought it was a pretty clever little gadget.

sop

(10,274 posts)
11. "Hardening" is the latest NRA buzzword.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:43 PM
May 2022

They want us to spend billions to "harden" every school in America. Apparently, it's the only solution to the problem they've created, and taxpayers have to foot the bill.

grumpyduck

(6,269 posts)
15. So now they want to lobby for the security
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:53 PM
May 2022

and construction industries?

Fuck them to hell and back. Two round trips.

Deuxcents

(16,353 posts)
14. They come up with all kinds of 💩
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:53 PM
May 2022

When the common denominator with these mass killings is too many assault/ military style guns. Guns. No place on Earth but here. Do we change the locks on churches, theaters, restaurants, grocery stores, shopping malls, too? They are disgusting.

OrlandoDem2

(2,070 posts)
18. I'm not going to defend Trump. But my classroom door was retrofitted so that
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:15 PM
May 2022

I can lock it with a key on the inside. Kids cannot. It’s not a push button lock. It requires me to use my key to lock on the inside the same way I lock/unlock the door on the outside with a key. Also, it can be opened from the inside without a key by simply turning the knob, although it cannot be opened from the outside without a key if I lock from the inside.

It’s so we don’t have to go outside to lock the door in case of yet another shooting. One teacher in Parkland was shot as he opened his door to step outside to lock it in the hallway.

If we are ever locked in a room during a circumstance like this, we are not to open the door. The police will have the key.

All that said, we need strict gun laws!!!!!!!!!!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,644 posts)
21. They called that (and probably do still call it) "double-cylinder" deadbolt locks
Fri May 27, 2022, 08:17 PM
May 2022

which may be similar to what you are talking about.

My parents had those on every entrance/exit door in the house and each door lock had its own key and also had keyed door knobs (exterior only) as well.

I.e., every "top lock" for the front doors (we had one front door to the sun porch and then another front door from the sun porch to go outside), the back door, AND the basement door (that led to a well with steps up to the backyard level that had a well cover over it with a slide latch bolt to lock it from the inside), had to be locked from the inside or the outside with a key. The bottom locks on all of those doors were various single cylinder dead bolts keyed on the outside but with a thumb turn thingy on the inside.

We even had keyed storm doors (keyed for opening from the outside when locked and with a slider switch to lock it on the inside) for each entrance/exit door. So every primary door had 3 keys.

At night when we "locked up", we had to use the key to do it on any (top lock-) unlocked door from the inside.

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