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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:00 PM Oct 2012

Did Chris Christie just push Barack Obama over the finish line ahead of Mitt Romney??

I guess he didn't take kindly to Mitt Romney picking Hound Dog Ryan ahead of himself?

Or maybe he is just doing what he thinks is best for his state? The President reached out his hand to help and he accepted. Who said Obama could not work with Republicans? All along the question should have been: Can Republicans work with the President?

But, Gov Chris Christie has commended the President for showing excellent leadership during this disaster. He left Mitt Romney swinging in the wind somewhere over in Ohio. This morning, he stated on TV that he had no interest in meeting with Mitt Romney for a photo op. Tomorrow, he meets with the President...

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Did Chris Christie just push Barack Obama over the finish line ahead of Mitt Romney?? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2012 OP
Heh, heh, heh... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #1
He's looking toward 2016. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #2
Of course. If Romney wins, he's running as the incumbent in 2016, so, Christie Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #9
Might even have to wait til 2024. After eight years of a wrongney presidency (assuming the worst), calimary Nov 2012 #24
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner. LAGC Oct 2012 #20
He's had some strokes of luck...and has played them well. libdem4life Oct 2012 #3
Nope, he read the handwriting on the wall SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #4
That could be one of the best things to happen to this country.... kentuck Oct 2012 #7
But is the "moderate, bipartisan sect" the majority of the party anymore? Wednesdays Oct 2012 #17
Let me check..... JohnnyRingo Oct 2012 #5
The President is showing leadership... kentuck Oct 2012 #11
And so is Christie, whatever secondary motives he may have. Lucinda Oct 2012 #14
What a bi-partisan thing to say. kentuck Oct 2012 #15
I think you nailed it with that one Lifelong Protester Oct 2012 #18
what the fuck is Romney going to do ? he isn't the President, Christie doesn't have much choice here JI7 Oct 2012 #6
Good threads Thekaspervote Oct 2012 #8
Welcome to DU, Thekaspervote! calimary Nov 2012 #25
Christie. Republican bus. Tire tread marks all over him. Wednesdays Oct 2012 #10
He's being savvy (or slick) however you want to see it... cherish44 Oct 2012 #12
k&r n/t RainDog Oct 2012 #13
It's the reality of Hurricane Sandy. He's gov of a Democratic State Cha Oct 2012 #16
Chris Christie is a lot of things. Lugnut Oct 2012 #19
CORRECT Skittles Oct 2012 #21
Go read enenews.com for some harrowing news aggregating on NJ. proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #22
My point being that Christie knows all this in real time, of course, and more. proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #23
We'll just have to watch and see whether the experience changed him, though. calimary Nov 2012 #28
I actually do believe Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #26
No. Obama's been way ahead before Christie opened his mouth. randome Nov 2012 #27
I thought it was all about 2016, revenge... union_maid Nov 2012 #29
 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
2. He's looking toward 2016.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:04 PM
Oct 2012

He never wanted to be VP on this ticket, it would have ruined his rising star and quite possibly ended his career.

He's a right wing, 1% champion, union busting creep but he's not a lunatic the way the baggers are. His words today were for a few things. One, I think he genuinely cares about the people in his state and knows how important it is to get the federal aid. Two, he's sealing his re-election in the state. Three, he knows Romney is going to lose and wants to look moderate as he gears up for 2016. And four, he knows what he's saying in this circumstance is true and he is fairly honest in what he believes.

That's to say that I don't think he lies, I think he tells the truth as he sees it. Whether or not the things he says are actually true is another thing. He's dangerous.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
9. Of course. If Romney wins, he's running as the incumbent in 2016, so, Christie
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

would have to wait another 4 years. I'm not sure if he's better or worse than Romney, but he's no more presidential. His classless hissy fits and bully boy behavior when dealing with the press are embarrassing.

calimary

(81,432 posts)
24. Might even have to wait til 2024. After eight years of a wrongney presidency (assuming the worst),
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012

it's a pretty good bet the Dems would win the White House back in 2020. For at least four years if not eight. So christie wouldd have to wait maybe as long as 2028 before he had a realistic shot. Unless of course he was the CON who ran and got beaten in 2020. Then he probably wouldn't have any chance at all. republi-CONS don't like candidates with loser-stench all over them. Look how much we heard from ghwb or bob dole after they lost. jack kemp, too, when he lost with bob dole. They barely held their noses and tolerated john mcsame this year, but to them he's nothing but a loser as well.

LAGC

(5,330 posts)
20. DING! DING! DING! We have a winner.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:04 AM
Oct 2012

Christie has his own ambitions in mind -- nothing more, nothing less.

 

SubgeniusHasSlack

(276 posts)
4. Nope, he read the handwriting on the wall
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:13 PM
Oct 2012

of the impending tidal wave/landslide for The President that will implode the teabagiban run republickcon party.

The very rotund governor is positioning to be the leader of the moderate, bipartisan friendly, not completely insane republickcon party sect that will be the only remnant to survive rMoney's spectacularly supercilious and prevaricational campaign.

Wednesdays

(17,402 posts)
17. But is the "moderate, bipartisan sect" the majority of the party anymore?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

I'm not talking about the average Joe Republican, but rather the delegates at the conventions, and the decision-makers of the party. So what if they get trounced at the polls, the same people will be in control of the party, and with Faux and Limbaugh's help, they'll convince themselves it happened because "Democrats cheated" or some such hogwash. Their philosophy is never wrong... Oh no, they just ran the wrong candidate, blah blah blah.

What the GOP talking heads say next Wednesday will give you a perfect image of what to expect in the next few election cycles, and I predict the same if not even more of the same. Mixed with a transparent and cynical scramble for Latino votes.

JohnnyRingo

(18,640 posts)
5. Let me check.....
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:19 PM
Oct 2012

Nope, the president is still black.

This is more likely to enrage Romney supporters against Christie than get them to vote against their prejudices.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
11. The President is showing leadership...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:33 PM
Oct 2012

Mitt Romney is lacking, just like John McCain before the last election and crisis.

This is not a debate. It is the real world. People see who is willing to help them.

This is the October Surprise...

Hurricane Sandy.

JI7

(89,261 posts)
6. what the fuck is Romney going to do ? he isn't the President, Christie doesn't have much choice here
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:21 PM
Oct 2012

President Obama is the only one he can work with.

but i do think he was turned off by Romney wanting to use this for his own gain and i do think he hopes to run in 2016 .

Thekaspervote

(32,787 posts)
8. Good threads
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:31 PM
Oct 2012

He lives in democratic state and is not necessarily liked. I agree he's a bully with ambitions, but knows what side HIS bread is buttered on

calimary

(81,432 posts)
25. Welcome to DU, Thekaspervote!
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:38 PM
Nov 2012

Glad you're here, and we need you! This election isn't in the bag yet. We can't get complacent, and we all need to keep fighting til the last polls close. And then keep the vigilance up - nonstop, from then on.







Now get to work.

Cha

(297,504 posts)
16. It's the reality of Hurricane Sandy. He's gov of a Democratic State
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

that has been desvastated. He knows darn well the people of New Jersey don't want him playing politics with romney and they woudn't appreciate him dissing the President. It's just good sense for your state to be candid about the person who is helping you the best. It would be stupid for him to do anything else.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
19. Chris Christie is a lot of things.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:02 AM
Oct 2012

Stupid isn't one of them. The President can and has helped him and NJ in the aftermath of Sandy. Mitch can't unless he writes a very big check payable to the Red Cross from his personal funds.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
21. CORRECT
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:50 AM
Oct 2012

Mr. Christie cares more about helping the people in his state than in helping Mitt Romney, and that is a very good thing.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
22. Go read enenews.com for some harrowing news aggregating on NJ.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 11:11 AM
Nov 2012

Take-away: disaster averted due to aggressive pre-planning and implementation, starting with positioning federal inspectors from NRC with satellite phones at each plant in storm's path, and concluding with off-site power restoration.

Imagine if it were entirely left up to the private sector. Any fumble and the public is at enormous risk.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
23. My point being that Christie knows all this in real time, of course, and more.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nov 2012

The experience had to change him, despite Koch backing.

calimary

(81,432 posts)
28. We'll just have to watch and see whether the experience changed him, though.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:41 PM
Nov 2012

He's a republi-CON. Automatically makes him untrustworthy. If the scorpion spoke really nicely and politely when it asked me for a lift on my back across the river, said please and thank you and promised not to sting me, I'd STILL say NO!!!!!! A scorpion is always gonna be a scorpion. They rarely change what's part of their true nature.

Dorian Gray

(13,498 posts)
26. I actually do believe
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:39 PM
Nov 2012

he's doing what's best for his state in this terrible circumstance. Sometimes taking care of a tragic emergency takes prevalence over politics. (I'm such an idealist.)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. No. Obama's been way ahead before Christie opened his mouth.
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:40 PM
Nov 2012

I wouldn't mind facing the truth if I thought he had anything to do with this election but I really don't think he did. Romney is that damaged a candidate. Just like Palin before him and just like...Santorum?...in 2016.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
29. I thought it was all about 2016, revenge...
Sat Nov 3, 2012, 09:41 PM
Nov 2012

...and even some of doing the right thing for his state. And maybe it is all of that, but my sister said she thought that Obama treated him with respect - calling him, asking him what he needed, never rolling over him. After his treatment by the Romney camp vis a vis the VP offer that wasn't, that might have made a very positive impression.

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