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Nevilledog

(51,170 posts)
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:12 PM May 2022

It appears that the Uvalde shooter purchased his expensive weapons w/ "buy now pay later" plan



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Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D
@RVAwonk
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May 28, 2022
Yes, it appears that the Uvalde shooter purchased his weapons — which cost several thousands of dollars — on credit. The fact that most gun stores & manufacturers have financing plans is a wide open door to impulse-buy deadly weapons, and I’m shocked this isn’t talked about more.

Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D
@RVAwonk
Re. the Uvalde shooter buying his weapons on credit: I don’t even mean “with a credit card” — I mean that he got his firearms from a gun manufacturer that literally offers a “buy now pay later” financing plan. It’s absolutely *wild* that this is legal.
https://nytimes.com/2022/05/28/business/daniel-defense-rifle-texas-shooting-gun.html
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It appears that the Uvalde shooter purchased his expensive weapons w/ "buy now pay later" plan (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
Good grief. I had no idea. nt DURHAM D May 2022 #1
Kill now/Pay later Cattledog May 2022 #2
Gee, I hope the gun store can get its merchandise back gratuitous May 2022 #11
I hope the weapons are melted down and the ammo destroyed. Delmette2.0 May 2022 #15
Anything to get them off the shelves... EarthFirst May 2022 #3
The inability to pay just exudes responsibility! bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
So now are they gonna come repossess the murder weapon for nonpayment? Walleye May 2022 #5
I'm curious how he qualified Buckeyeblue May 2022 #6
The gun manufacturer "Daniel Defense" offered a "Buy now/Pay later" plan. Cattledog May 2022 #8
It's not the store or the manufacturer offering credit Zeitghost May 2022 #17
I didn't think the store was offering the financing but wasn't sure Buckeyeblue May 2022 #21
These places are giving credit to anyone and everyone Zeitghost May 2022 #23
The GOP wants all Americans to possess weapons of mass destruction. Irish_Dem May 2022 #7
Instead of lay away it's kill away. SoonerPride May 2022 #9
Guess they'll have to write off that debt, Ms. Toad May 2022 #10
Holy shit Baitball Blogger May 2022 #12
someone has said that in that case the store is the legal owner of the weapon. Grasswire2 May 2022 #13
No Zeitghost May 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Grasswire2 May 2022 #14
I'm having trouble believing an 18 year old, who failed to graduate high school rsdsharp May 2022 #16
Yes. Same here LiberalFighter May 2022 #19
here's the facts Grasswire2 May 2022 #22
Predatory Capitalism to the highest degree! Emile May 2022 #20
How an 18-year old with only fast-food employment got that much credit ThoughtCriminal May 2022 #24
i hadn't heard this anywhere. it's just unfuggenbelievable how easy it is to buy one IcyPeas May 2022 #25

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Gee, I hope the gun store can get its merchandise back
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:35 PM
May 2022

Or are the authorities going to confiscate the death machines, and cost some small business thousands of dollars of losses? NOW we can see the real tragedy! Maybe someone can start a GoFundMe?

EarthFirst

(2,901 posts)
3. Anything to get them off the shelves...
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:16 PM
May 2022

This should be forbidden.

This isn’t a lawn mower or furniture; FFS!

I too; was unaware this was even an option…

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
6. I'm curious how he qualified
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:22 PM
May 2022

The stores lending policies should be looked at. If the interest rates for the BNPL agreement were high, the store might be considered a predatory lender, which I believe has an even higher level of scrutiny.

Zeitghost

(3,866 posts)
17. It's not the store or the manufacturer offering credit
Sun May 29, 2022, 04:13 PM
May 2022

They use Credova, which is one of the many consumer credit lenders offering retail credit online and in stores. Pay Pay, Affirm and a number of others offer similar services.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
21. I didn't think the store was offering the financing but wasn't sure
Sun May 29, 2022, 04:30 PM
May 2022

It's interesting because at 18 he probably had not established credit yet to be able to establish a credit score. Those are called thin files. Just about every lender would not approve a loan unless there was someone willing to cosign.

I wonder if he had a cosigner?

Zeitghost

(3,866 posts)
23. These places are giving credit to anyone and everyone
Sun May 29, 2022, 04:52 PM
May 2022

Even little stores in the mall like Boxlunch are offering instant 3rd party credit. It's gotten crazy.

Irish_Dem

(47,248 posts)
7. The GOP wants all Americans to possess weapons of mass destruction.
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:28 PM
May 2022

Regardless of ability to pay for them.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
9. Instead of lay away it's kill away.
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:31 PM
May 2022

Buy now
Kill soon
Get killed
Never have a bill
Pretty sweet deal


For the psychopath gun nut.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
10. Guess they'll have to write off that debt,
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

and jack up the prices of the rest of their inventory to cover the loss . . .

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
13. someone has said that in that case the store is the legal owner of the weapon.
Sun May 29, 2022, 02:52 PM
May 2022

Can that be exploited in legal filings?

Zeitghost

(3,866 posts)
18. No
Sun May 29, 2022, 04:17 PM
May 2022

For one, the store isn't offering credit, it's a 3rd party consumer credit company.

It's unsecured credit, the gun is not collateral and does not have a lien against it.

Even if it did, it would not make the lienholder criminally or civilly responsible.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

rsdsharp

(9,195 posts)
16. I'm having trouble believing an 18 year old, who failed to graduate high school
Sun May 29, 2022, 03:52 PM
May 2022

whose work history appears to be part time at Burger King, could qualify for that much credit.

LiberalFighter

(51,020 posts)
19. Yes. Same here
Sun May 29, 2022, 04:27 PM
May 2022

They must charge high interest rates. If so, need to run the loan sharks out of business.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
24. How an 18-year old with only fast-food employment got that much credit
Sun May 29, 2022, 05:20 PM
May 2022

Is I'm sure, one more question Texas DPS has not bothered to ask.


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