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Why???? Why are gun people like this? (Original Post) brettdale May 2022 OP
Penis envy. LakeArenal May 2022 #1
It says 3% of Americans own 133MM firearms on that Twitter thread. That's frightening In It to Win It May 2022 #2
Totally made up numbers. former9thward May 2022 #6
Not necessarily. I did look it up before posting it In It to Win It May 2022 #8
Ohh yes, a survey.... former9thward May 2022 #10
I don't consider that improbable In It to Win It May 2022 #12
This study, which has been published asm128 May 2022 #21
Is that the correct link? sl8 May 2022 #35
How many firearms do you have, former9thward? BTW, this isn't a survey. ❤ littlemissmartypants May 2022 #26
Pareto's Principle, aka the 80/20 rule BeyondGeography May 2022 #33
Here is my survey. former9thward May 2022 #54
IOW, you concede the point BeyondGeography May 2022 #55
Some people love fantasy and denial in their lives. former9thward May 2022 #56
You live in Hispania? we can do it May 2022 #61
It's a hobby, and hobbyists love to show off their collections... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #3
I golf Diablo del sol May 2022 #11
I guess you haven't come across any Scotty Cameron fans Zeitghost May 2022 #14
That's as silly as any showing off of personal collections... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #15
And some people Zeitghost May 2022 #17
Just googled the following: Diablo del sol May 2022 #16
I'm not sure how one could come to an ethical conclusion Zeitghost May 2022 #18
Jesus looking down on the pile of death tools. Bristlecone May 2022 #4
Stupid showing off the do-wells. Just saying. Nt Baked Potato May 2022 #5
Fashion, a trend, stuff. betsuni May 2022 #7
Agree with LakeArenal, it's sexual projection. usonian May 2022 #9
this collection at least shows stopdiggin May 2022 #29
Burt's gun wall: sl8 May 2022 #32
Nothing compared to my BiL's collection Amishman May 2022 #34
It's a fetish. Or an addiction. Initech May 2022 #13
Danyela is a professional competition shooter. Fla_Democrat May 2022 #19
Who is Danyela? I looked through the thread on Twitter and couldn't find her. littlemissmartypants May 2022 #28
When I clicked the tweet..... Fla_Democrat May 2022 #37
The American lifestyle is soulless, atomized, isolated, and debt-ridden. Yavin4 May 2022 #20
By themselves, they feel inadequate. eppur_se_muova May 2022 #22
That number behind the names... jmowreader May 2022 #23
they love defiance NJCher May 2022 #24
I can tell you. LiberatedUSA May 2022 #42
Depends EthanBlue May 2022 #25
I can't help but think about all the wasted money, too. littlemissmartypants May 2022 #27
you read my mind NJCher May 2022 #47
I had a similar thought PJMcK May 2022 #60
IIRC, they were asked to pose with their collections. SYFROYH May 2022 #30
that may be so, but NJCher May 2022 #48
Well if you google 'people posing with their collections' SYFROYH May 2022 #59
These are pictures of a sexual gun fetish. Irish_Dem May 2022 #31
I have a friend whose husband has a gun collection like that. Their son Thtwudbeme May 2022 #36
deep-seated paranoia, imho eShirl May 2022 #38
fetish objects Novara May 2022 #39
In my rural area of Florida, success is measured in guns and trucks. Just three of allegorical oracle May 2022 #40
...and Jesus on the wall.... spanone May 2022 #41
Same reason people retweet whistler162 May 2022 #43
I'd rather collect heirloom tomato seeds onethatcares May 2022 #44
I could make a pretty impressive design with all my books. tanyev May 2022 #45
No different than any cult HAB911 May 2022 #46
Maybe it's a form of hoarding. Mosby May 2022 #49
yeah, like if you had that many fishing rods onethatcares May 2022 #52
They like to needle. (N/T) Patton French May 2022 #50
Because Supreme Court Mr. Ected May 2022 #51
Lunatics ellie May 2022 #53
I think its pride for some Tree Lady May 2022 #57
Kid needs a new bike. Parents instead spend $200,000 on guns. mainer May 2022 #58

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
6. Totally made up numbers.
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:43 AM
May 2022

Where do they come from? Guns are not registered and gun owners are not either. People just make up these things on the internet because they know others will repeat them.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
10. Ohh yes, a survey....
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:57 AM
May 2022

From the link: The unpublished Harvard/Northeastern survey

Now why would it be unpublished? Because the universities know it has no credibility and they don't want to have to answer questions about it??

Who in their right mind would answer questions by anonymous strangers calling them on a phone and asking them if they have a gun in their home? No one. If you want to take it seriously go ahead. But its nonsense. And the so-called survey says we have 265 million guns. Now all the recent posts claim 400 million. So a increase of 135 million in 6 years? These are all numbers being pulled from thin air.

In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
12. I don't consider that improbable
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:08 AM
May 2022

You may question the source but it is not improbable that 9 to 10 million people in this country are avid "collectors" of guns that they would have at least 15 guns per person given the huge gun culture that this country has.

asm128

(115 posts)
21. This study, which has been published
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:55 AM
May 2022

states similar facts: 3% of the US adult population owns 50% of the guns (page 44).

[link:https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/|]

So much for having no credibility, eh? Or maybe Harvard just doesn't know what they're doing.

sl8

(13,787 posts)
35. Is that the correct link?
Mon May 30, 2022, 06:43 AM
May 2022

Your link goes to a page about one of David Hemenway's books, not a study.

Also, page 44 of the book doesn't discuss 3% of owners or 50% of firearms.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
33. Pareto's Principle, aka the 80/20 rule
Mon May 30, 2022, 06:21 AM
May 2022

All consumer-facing businesses selling discretionary products depend on high-volume users. All.of.them.

If they are working with a universe of 265 million guns in this country, that number owned by the top 3% makes perfect sense.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
54. Here is my survey.
Mon May 30, 2022, 11:54 AM
May 2022

In my Chicago neighborhood, which is 80-90% Hispanic, all homes have guns. I don't know or care how many. I found this fact out two summers ago during the looting taking place downtown and in various neighborhoods. The police were sent out of the neighborhood to protect downtown and the Mayor's house. In response we came out of our homes and stood guard with our guns to protect neighborhood local businesses from looters who were traveling around in trucks, My survey but believe what you want about college kids calling strangers.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. It's a hobby, and hobbyists love to show off their collections...
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:25 AM
May 2022

It's just that some collections are more wholesome than others.

 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
11. I golf
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:02 AM
May 2022

Would give anyone a million dollars to find one picture of my clubs as the focal point in any picture. Might have a club in my hand at an event or golf bag in the background in some picture. But there is not one picture in my life where I laid out my clubs for a pic. When I was younger I played a lot of baseball and softball. Same thing, have shots of me in the field or at bat, but never one single picture of any bat or glove that I have ever owned. And I have glove that is special for sentimental reasons that I have owned and kept for 40 years now. Not one damn picture ever taken of just that glove.

These things are their babies, and that is flat out sick.

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
14. I guess you haven't come across any Scotty Cameron fans
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:09 AM
May 2022

Putter collecting is a serious hobby and guys love to show off their collections.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
15. That's as silly as any showing off of personal collections...
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:15 AM
May 2022

but not as educational as artworks or as dangerous as guns.

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
17. And some people
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:20 AM
May 2022

Find chasing a ball around an expensive park for hours on end to be a silly waste of a Saturday. Like most hobbies, those on the outside rarely see the appeal.

 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
16. Just googled the following:
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:20 AM
May 2022

Scotty Cameron Putter Collections

AR-15 Collections

One brings up images where the majority (90+ Percent) are people selling Putters. The AR-15 was the exact opposite, Ammosexuals posting pics that give insight into twisted minds.

p.s. the guys posting Scotty Cameron putters are twisted too, trying to impress people with $400 plus putters. If I played with someone who showed me a similar pic, by the end of the round I would joke that I am going to shove one of those putters up your ass. Worse thing, he swings it at me. With an AR-15 he shoots me, the other guys then takes out others.

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
18. I'm not sure how one could come to an ethical conclusion
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:24 AM
May 2022

On putter collecting. But those that like to feel superior to others can always find someway to put down things that bring joy to others.

Bristlecone

(10,129 posts)
4. Jesus looking down on the pile of death tools.
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:31 AM
May 2022

Those folks really know how to spruce up their place.

Says 2019, so by now they may have saved up enough for a matching laminate coffee table.

betsuni

(25,538 posts)
7. Fashion, a trend, stuff.
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:44 AM
May 2022

Like how so many people bought huge SUVs, huge McMansions, have closets full of shoes.

And the perfect symbol of anti-intellectualism, the anti-"elites" everyone's obsessed about.

usonian

(9,815 posts)
9. Agree with LakeArenal, it's sexual projection.
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:50 AM
May 2022

Also, society fetishises guns, like "jewels" to collect and admire ... even fondle ...

Those are two powerful forces.

No real need for all this excess

stopdiggin

(11,317 posts)
29. this collection at least shows
Mon May 30, 2022, 03:24 AM
May 2022

an array of different types, function and historical vintage and relevance.

Chances are you've identified a real collector and aficionado (and not a cos-play, camo dude) in this one.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
34. Nothing compared to my BiL's collection
Mon May 30, 2022, 06:26 AM
May 2022

200 some guns on walls and racks, like a military armory. He says he has them all on display like that (in a vault room) so he can find the one he's looking for when he wants it.

I have no pictures, he doesn't allow his collection to be photographed because he doesn't want it to end up on the net.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
19. Danyela is a professional competition shooter.
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:25 AM
May 2022

Remember watching her run 3 gun back when she was 15 or 16.

It's interesting to see the collections of the Hawaiian residents. Pretty impressive considering the bat crap laws they live with.








littlemissmartypants

(22,694 posts)
28. Who is Danyela? I looked through the thread on Twitter and couldn't find her.
Mon May 30, 2022, 03:20 AM
May 2022

I'd like to know more about her. TIA ❤

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
37. When I clicked the tweet.....
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:16 AM
May 2022

She is 2 pictures above the 2 African American gentlemen sitting on the couch, Collin Singletom (45) and James Prince (41), Atlanta, Georgia.




/photo/1


https://www.facebook.com/danyeladangelo



Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
20. The American lifestyle is soulless, atomized, isolated, and debt-ridden.
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:45 AM
May 2022

All of which leads to mental health problems. People own so many guns because they're hyper paranoid about the world outside of their home. This happens when you live in a single family home in the suburbs where you have little to no contact with people on a daily basis.

Most gun deaths are suicide or accidents.

eppur_se_muova

(36,269 posts)
22. By themselves, they feel inadequate.
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:55 AM
May 2022

Building a collection to show off makes them more important, supposedly. (Spoiler: It doesn't actually work.)

The bigger the gun collection, the bigger the inferiority complex.

NJCher

(35,687 posts)
24. they love defiance
Mon May 30, 2022, 02:08 AM
May 2022

and they have attitudes.

I think the gun makes them think they have power. Without their guns they feel powerless.

Remember Charlton Heston's cold dead hands remark? All these pics and expressions reflect defiance.

Now what they are defiant about is a mystery to me.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
42. I can tell you.
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:58 AM
May 2022

They are saying “we didn’t buy all these just to turn them in.”

That is what they are saying.

EthanBlue

(48 posts)
25. Depends
Mon May 30, 2022, 02:15 AM
May 2022

It really depends on the person. I knew a gun owner that had a collection of very old guns. Stuff from the civil war, (that’s what he told me it was, not a gun pets so he could have been lying) He was proud as he held a piece of history.

Others well… They like the power and danger I guess.

littlemissmartypants

(22,694 posts)
27. I can't help but think about all the wasted money, too.
Mon May 30, 2022, 03:12 AM
May 2022

I wonder if they have equivalent amounts of money in savings, in their pension funds, in their kid's college funds, in a fund to pay for health-care co-pays ('cause, you know accidents are going to happen) or are their funds invested in a money making venture or something similar?

Have they got enough to pay for at least a couple of firearms training sessions?

How about some extra curricular activities or special after-school lessons for their children or for Summer camps? Are they helping out their aging family members? Do they make donations for the betterment of society any where?

Clearly, some of them could use some home furnishings and apparently could afford better interior decorating, too. If they didn't feel compelled to waste so much of their money on drugs. Oops. I meant firearms.



NJCher

(35,687 posts)
47. you read my mind
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:00 AM
May 2022

especially this:

Clearly, some of them could use some home furnishings and apparently could afford better interior decorating, too.

A living room the size of walk-in closet, but gotta' buy those guns first!

On the other hand, a bathtub more commonly found in a Las Vegas honeymoon suite suggests some rather peculiar sentiments.

And as far as your other comments, just about everything you outline is the province of a responsible citizen.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
60. I had a similar thought
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:53 PM
May 2022

Last week, we went to a sporting shop in rural Pennsylvania to have my wife's fishing rod repaired. The shop was full of fishing and hunting gear and they offer a wide variety of firearms. These included pistols, both large and small, rifles of all sorts and tons of ammunition. The firearms were expensive, priced from about $250 to over $3,500. From the number of weapons in the pictures, these gun-humpers have spent a fortune on their little "hobby."

Count me out.

SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
30. IIRC, they were asked to pose with their collections.
Mon May 30, 2022, 03:25 AM
May 2022

Last edited Mon May 30, 2022, 11:12 AM - Edit history (1)

I remember when this photo essay came out about a year ago.

NJCher

(35,687 posts)
48. that may be so, but
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:02 AM
May 2022

We've been seeing pictures that portray "collections" like this for at least a decade.

With them, it's a thing.

SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
59. Well if you google 'people posing with their collections'
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:39 PM
May 2022


You’ll see lots of people posing in a similar manner with different collections.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
31. These are pictures of a sexual gun fetish.
Mon May 30, 2022, 06:06 AM
May 2022

A fetish that involves power, domination, violence, death and sexual arousal.

 

Thtwudbeme

(7,737 posts)
36. I have a friend whose husband has a gun collection like that. Their son
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:10 AM
May 2022

shot himself in the garage/ outbuilding where the collection was displayed last year.

Mark was 25 years old.

Would he have done the same thing if they owned a pistol, a shotgun and a hunting rifle? (They are midwest rural)

We'll never know. And I'll shove hot coals under my toenails before I ask which gun he used, or what he said in his note.

Novara

(5,843 posts)
39. fetish objects
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:26 AM
May 2022

Oh yes, people like to show off their collections, blah blah blah.

My Mom's connection of cat figurines won't slaughter a 4th grade class.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
40. In my rural area of Florida, success is measured in guns and trucks. Just three of
Mon May 30, 2022, 07:44 AM
May 2022

my neighbors own gun collections totaling at least 75 weapons. Here, guns also function as currency. If someone needs some fast cash, they can easily sell a gun. I know because I have been called and offered guns to buy.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
43. Same reason people retweet
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:07 AM
May 2022

twits that tweet tweets that are created to sucker people into retweeting them!

tanyev

(42,568 posts)
45. I could make a pretty impressive design with all my books.
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:33 AM
May 2022

But the time it would take to set them up and put them away is valuable time I could be, you know, reading.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
52. yeah, like if you had that many fishing rods
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:35 AM
May 2022

those same folks would be telling you that you're sick or something.

Tree Lady

(11,476 posts)
57. I think its pride for some
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:33 PM
May 2022

And some like to trigger others. Makes them feel powerful.

When I see these pics I feel deep sadness and angry that they are allowed so many.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
58. Kid needs a new bike. Parents instead spend $200,000 on guns.
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:36 PM
May 2022

People on twitter who know guns estimate that's how much these guns must have cost them.


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