The committee hearings: What was going on in Trumps sick mind during the 187 minutes?

[fightforfreedom]

For over three hours Trump watched an armed attack on our capital he led, an attempted over throw of our government. He saw the violence, he saw the cops being attacked. What was his main goal? Was he just trying to stop the vote count and if so why did he stop after 3 hours? Or was he planning something else and if so why didn't he do it? Or was he just a child like narcissist enjoying the fact people were fighting for him?

Was Trump hoping a member of congress or Pence would be killed or captured? Then he could declare martial law. If not, how could he watch that violence for three hours and not be concerned a member of congress, cops or Pence could be killed?

We know countless people called Meadows, Trump, telling them to call off the attack. Trump refused which shows intent. Why were Republicans involved in the attempted over throw calling Trump to call off the attack? Did they believe the people who attacked the capital were just going to peacefully protest at the capital in order to stop the count? When things got out of hand they panicked?

What happened during those 187 minutes is going to be damming evidence of Trumps and others intent.

When the evidence is presented to the grand jury (The American people) will they awaken from their apathy and demand indictments?

[bucolic_frolic]

1. I don't know why they focus on the 187 minutes so much, he put 3 months effort into it

Does he get a free pass on all the preparations for Treason Day?

[MiHale]

4. I think they'll show the build up to 1/6...

It’s probably the best way to show intent.
My mom used to say, “The dirt always comes out in the wash.”, but I’ll add “Sometimes the dirt is deep and it needs another wash but it does eventually come out”.

[Emile]

2. I can't believe he's not in prison. What the hell!

[LiberatedUSA]

3. I'll tell you what.

For those 187 minutes he was hopping a lot of 187s were being committed, especially one involving hanging.

[dem4decades]

5. If it were truly important DOJ would be investigating and enforcing Jan 6 subpoenas.

[JohnSJ]

6. Over a year and a half has gone by since January 6th, and it is pretty likely if there are any

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indictments, it won't happen before the midterms.

If the republicans gain the majority Congress after the midterms, it will make any indictments even more unlikely, and if the worst scenario occurs, where a republican gains the WH in 2024, not only is it likely that if there are any indictments, they will receive presidential pardons

The time to do something was 2016, when it was clear that the Supreme Court was at stake, and because of that it will be a long time before things change

[gab13by13]

7. I disagree that indictments have to wait

until after the election. That should only apply to candidates who are on the ballot. DOJ does not have to wait to indict former cabinet members, former Trump advisors, or Trump himself. A GQP AG would not wait.

[JohnSJ]

22. I didn't say they have to, I said I think they will because Garland will honor the Hatch Act, unlike

what Comey did

[paleotn]

14. Long time between June and Nov.

In my mind the public hearings are political cover for what may be ready to roll as soon as they're over. DOJ investigations and the Jan 6 Committee have been occurring in tandem and for quite a while now. The point is to lay out as much as possible to the American people in prime time to show that this isn't political, it's criminal. To inform, but also to frame.

[JohnSJ]

23. I hope you are right, but I am skeptical just how many people will be paying attention to it, other

than the political junkies.

Other than local news, I don't think most of the American populace watch that much news, at least through their television.

faux news rates about 2.46 million viewers in prime time, and 1.55 million for the week.

They also averaged more than CNN and MSNBC combined.

"MSNBC earned the No. 3 ranking on basic cable in total primetime viewers and moved up to No. 2 in total day viewers. The network averaged 1.08 million total viewers in primetime"

"CNN averaged 571,000 total viewers in primetime"

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/week-of-feb-14-cable-ranker-fox-news-continues-to-average-most-viewers-on-all-of-cable-tv/501596/

and while that is from Feburary, March follows the same trend:

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/week-of-march-21-cable-network-ranker-fox-news-remains-no-1-in-total-day-viewers-is-no-2-in-primetime/504293/

It seems most people get their news from digital devices, and that includes social media, which is even more disturbing.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/01/12/more-than-eight-in-ten-americans-get-news-from-digital-devices/

As far as how Americans view what happened on January 6, it is really a mixed bag:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2022/01/05/new-polls-on-january-6/?sh=39d2914e1816

What I read all this as is the "true believers" will not be influenced by the facts.

[paleotn]

25. Public perception is derived not from just those watching....

but also those in their networks of friends, family and acquaintances. Regardless, I think it will be more than just political junkies watching. Particularly once news spreads concerning what it's all about. How bad it is. And that nothing like this has threatened our Democracy since maybe 1861.

The main point is, once his actions are described as criminal in easy to understand terms and that these aren't purely politically motivated indictments, ah la Vlad Putin, DOJ will be freer to act.

[Fiendish Thingy]

18. Only indictments of elected officials/candidates would be affected by the election calendar

A sitting congressman was indicted for insider trading just before Labor Day in an election year.

DOJ is not restricted from seeking indictments of Eastman, Giuliani, Meadows, Stone or any of the other conspirators.

Control of congress will also not affect DOJ’s prosecutions.

[fightforfreedom]

19. Thank you. I am tired of explaining that to some people.

[Novara]

8. Have a little bit more patience. The hearings start in 10 days.

I suspect the committee will present ALL of it, and they will present the blob sitting on his fat ass clapping in glee on Jan 6 as the cherry on top.

10 days. The case will be presented to us in 10 days.

Once they have submitted their case to the public, let's work on pushing the DOJ to take action. Keep in mind the J6 committee is still interviewing top people and compiling notes, timelines, looking at the discrepancies in testimony, etc. That's a hell of a lot of work and they don't have a huge support staff of legal eagles to make this work go faster.

I am hoping that nationwide marches will be planned to push the DOJ for indictments once the evidence is presented to us, the people. If it's as explosive as they say it is, then people will be enraged. Then let's channel that rage into action. We marched in the streets for George Floyd, remember? We should march in the streets for democracy as well.

[Joinfortmill]

9. All questions that need answers. Just one thing..

I don't think Americans are apathetic (at least not most of them) as much as they are holding their breath waiting for the Jan 6 public hearings.

[Blue Owl]

10. Fabric swatches, bowel movements, and Big Macs danced in his brain

[fightforfreedom]

20. Bowel movements and Big Macs.

[kentuck]

11. Also, I have wondered what he was thinking before he got on the helicopter on January 20th...

...the day he had to leave the White House.

The cameras kept waiting for his exit. Finally someone persuaded him that he had to leave. He could not lock himself in his room and refuse to leave.

Reports are that he went into a deep dark period after that.

[ecstatic]

12. He was gleefully watching TV but slightly annoyed by the clothing choices

of some of the members of his terrorist mob. He didn't really think they looked the part.

And, yes he was hoping someone would be killed, starting with pence. He wanted the entire Congress to be killed, repubs included. He sent the mob there to kill them--it's all on tape.

While the attack was in full swing, tfg and ghouliani were calling and harassing members who were hiding for their lives. Imagine if the terrorists had breached the room and everyone needed to be quiet?

[agingdem]

13. More than likely he assumed his feral mob

would riot, taunt the police, but not breach the Capital... BUT when they did Trump took an "orgasmic" delight in the chaos and destruction on his behalf, convinced more than ever a slavishly devoted coward Mike Pence would follow orders ..BUT when Pence stood his ground, Trump was enraged, now what?..Trump remaining in power rested on Mike Pence and still did..Trump and his enablers hastily cobbled together Plan F, get Pence out the White House, away from the Capital...no Mike Pence, no transfer of power..BUT Pence refused to go..now what..how about "Hang Mike Pence!"?..Ok. with a dead VP, Trump could declare martial law, the country would be thrown into a constitutional crisis, and Trump stays in in the Oval Office, barking for his Diet Coke...I think that's what Eastman is hiding...

[kentuck]

15. Nothing is going to happen until someone goes to jail.

That is the only thing that will get their attention at this time. Otherwise, many will just tune out.

[Martin Eden]

16. Every minute of that violent assault was feeding his ego

He was reveling in it.

[Cozmo]

17. We all know what that asshole was doing. Remember seeing Kimberly dancing in the tent that morning?

They all knew what was going down and they all thought it was going to work. The only thing ever in the mind of TFG is TFG. It doesn't take the brain trust to figure this one out. What I want to know is what are we going to do about this.

[Girard442]

21. Jail him for his actions.

Anyone who wants can then probe around in that unflushed toilet of a mind.

[Chainfire]

24. No amount of evidence will change Trump's supporter's vison of the man.

If the evidence shows that he led a failed coup, they will only be sad that it failed. They will see it as "At least he tried to save the country." We are no longer the United States, we are two nations divided by our own style of iron curtain. I seriously doubt that we are capable of reunification.

The recent massacre illuminates the situation; we can't even agree that there is a problem, much less search for a logical solution. The Right and Left are no longer competitors, but enemies.