EMTs suggest that a child bled out, might have lived if police responded sooner

[ck4829]

One of 19 children killed in last week’s school shooting in Texas “likely bled out” in the more than an hour it took for law enforcement to confront and neutralize the gunman, a state senator said Sunday, citing the child’s family.

State Sen. Roland Gutierrez, who represents Uvalde, where Tuesday’s shooting occurred at Robb Elementary, said the extreme delay in first responders’ actions more than likely raised the death toll to 21.

“I sat down with a parent, a set of ― a family yesterday,” Gutierrez said in an interview with CNN’s “State of the Union.”

″ (The) mom told me that her child had been shot by one bullet through the back, through the kidney area. The first responder that they eventually talked to said that their child likely bled out,” he said. “In that span of 30 or 40 minutes extra, that little girl might have lived. That little girl might have lived.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/girl-killed-texas-school-shooting-222424455.html

[brewens]

1. I would be surprised to not hear that and would be it's more than one. Probably not a lot

of clean head shots. No doubt a few could have been saved.

[Novara]

2. I can't even imagine if that's your child

What these parents are going through is inexcusable. The shooting is bad enough but to wonder if your child would have lived if the police weren't so inept? To know that your child might have made it if they had immediate help?

Inexcusable. Heads need to roll.

[area51]

5. +1 n/t

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Happened at Columbine, Pulse, Las Vegas, over and over again.

We are our own first responders.

[Bear Creek]

9. Emergency Response

Is not what you see on TV or the movies. Don't go in maverick. Of course that is what the republicans think. Some random person with no training will be able to stop the whole thing. The good guy with a gun.

[PTWB]

11. Yep.

A lot of folks are under the mistaken impression that the police are legally required to protect the public. They aren’t.

In this case they essentially protected the shooter from the public while he committed his rampage.

And then there is the old adage that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

[Bear Creek]

13. Misguided

They were not protecting the shooter. Response is not instantaneous. The shooter had already did damage before any response could be done. The medical care for the injured is specialized and not usually successful. All this is a distraction from what needs done. Gun regulations and ban. If not done quickly the GOP will side step and brush under the carpet until the next group of innocent people are murdered.

[PTWB]

14. That's exactly what they were doing.

The held people back from going in to rescue their own children while the shooter massacred them. For damn near an hour.

The police gave the shooter free reign to commit his massacre. It’s extremely likely that multiple victims could have been saved had the police confronted and killed the shooter upon their initial arrival.

[Ms. Toad]

15. Have you read the information about the training the police received

very recently as to handle active shooter situations?

These police acted in a manner directly contrary to their training, which directed them to engage immediately.

Yes, damage had already been done, but his ammunition was not spen. We are just lucky that he did not engage in a second round of destruction. And, As indicated here, at least one life would have been saved had they followed their training.

Gun control legislation should be the main focus - but we know it has little chance of success, given all of the money focused against it. Because of that, we also need to focus on how to minimize the inevitable damage.

[JT45242]

4. Should be depraved indifference felony murder and wrongful death

But.... somehow the pos cops will be able to hide behind shield laws that allow them to do nothing to avoid the depraved indifference to human life murder charge and then not face civil wrongful deaths either.

Makes me sick.

They wasted the golden hour... How many if the fatalities could have been prevented? How many if the injuries would have been less severe if they were actually there to serve and protect rather than harass and intimidate?

[Butterflylady]

6. That's what I said when finding out about the delay

Of getting in to save those kids. Those cops let more kids die.

[Bear Creek]

7. Regular firearm

Maybe the AR15 creates a cavity and bleed out would have been seconds.

[Mariana]

10. The medical examiner should be able to determine what happened. nt.

[YoshidaYui]

8. Just

Horrible.

[Snackshack]

12. This is going to get so ugly...

…and a lot of these officers who were doing their job and following the orders of what are clearly incompetent commanders is going to cause some of these officers to ask questions that should never have to be asked.