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Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:26 PM May 2022

Biden rules out giving rocket systems that can strike into russia

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/05/30/biden-rules-out-giving-ukraine-rockets-that-can-strike-into-russia/

TOPLINE The United States will not send the Ukrainian military rocket systems that can reach targets inside Russia, President Joe Biden said Monday, as Ukraine asks U.S. officials for long-range rockets to aid in its fight against Russian forces in the country’s east.
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When asked outside the White House whether the United States plans to ship long-range rocket systems to Ukraine, Biden told reporters: “We are not going to send to Ukraine rocket systems that can strike into Russia.”
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Biden rules out giving rocket systems that can strike into russia (Original Post) Tomconroy May 2022 OP
Ukraine needs more air power if it is to recover its coast line BeyondGeography May 2022 #1
An interesting article the other day from the Daily KOS about MIG-29's mitch96 May 2022 #4
Thanks...I did see one of those tweets BeyondGeography May 2022 #9
Smart. fightforfreedom May 2022 #2
JHC..you want them to win or not??!! SAD PortTack May 2022 #3
I hoping this is what was meant: Tomconroy May 2022 #5
Fuck. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #6
Except that ones that could reach into Russia Igel May 2022 #7
Another tweet, maybe a little more clarity. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #8

BeyondGeography

(39,375 posts)
1. Ukraine needs more air power if it is to recover its coast line
Mon May 30, 2022, 12:32 PM
May 2022

I hope the issue of MiG-29s will be revisited.

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
4. An interesting article the other day from the Daily KOS about MIG-29's
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:18 PM
May 2022

Last edited Tue May 31, 2022, 11:07 AM - Edit history (1)

From the Daily KOS
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/28/2101011/-Ukraine-Update-Western-artillery-is-already-impacting-the-Battle-of-Donbas-and-more-is-on-the-way

"Ukraine suddenly appears to have dozens of MiG-29s in the air. The official explanation is that western allies sent “spare parts” to repair MiGs destroyed during Russia’s initial bombardment of Ukrainian airfields wink-wink. Between Poland, Bulgaria, and Slovakia, there were 55 potential MiG-29s for Ukraine, though many of those were reportedly not in airworthy condition. Would be nothing to disassemble them into “spare parts” to reassemble back in Ukraine. In fact, I’d bet on it. "
"One last bit of circumstantial evidence—when was the last time Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy or anyone else begged the West for MiG-29s? In fact, the last few weeks have all been about MLRS, MLRS, MLRS. Odds are good allies have emptied their stocks of Soviet-era aircraft for Ukraine, so it can now focus on other needs."

Igel

(35,320 posts)
7. Except that ones that could reach into Russia
Mon May 30, 2022, 01:23 PM
May 2022

Could also be based far from the Donbas and strike targets inside Ukraine.

Meanwhile, some of the armaments sent could already strike into Russia if placed close to the border.

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