with the permission of the parents or relatives...

[myohmy2]

...from now on after every mass gun fire carnage I want to see untouched first responder photos published of the actual damage sustained by a human body from an AR-15 round...

...I want to see the first responder photos immediately published of what an AR-15 does to the face and body of a slaughtered six year old child...I want to see what an actual exit wound looks like out the back of an officer who bled to death...I want to see all the body part damage caused by multiple rounds from an AR-15...

...then maybe after a sickened public wakes up and faces reality these slimy motherfuckers will pass some real gun control legislation...

...

[Funtatlaguy]

1. I agree. The GOP has shown "mangled" fetuses on the Senate floor

when arguing against abortion.
Why can real, formerly alive, childrens mangled bodies not be shown to the public in the gun reform debate.

[Walleye]

2. You can bet the police have seen these things.

Could be one of the reasons why they were reluctant to confront the shooter

[sdfernando]

3. I believe this is necessary

I don’t really want to see the images but I do think it needs to be done.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. It's a tough call, though I am inclined to agree. Others don't.

Definitely with the permission of the parents or whoever has custody.

It would be shocking. And there are those who would be inclined to do a copy cat sort of event.

Still, I agree.

[wnylib]

5. If permission for photos is not given

(and I could understand that), we can do a facsimile.

Use target dummies like police do for target practice, but make them more realistic, with full faces, hair, and clothing. Use small child sized ones. Weight them with filler to equal the appropriate weight for child and adult. Put hidden sacs of red fluid inside of them.

Take before and after photos. Use an AR15 on them. Get pics of blood splatter and body parts torn off and scattered. Plaster the before and after pics on social media. Get them on TV as ads or as Public Service Announcements, with the caption, "Stop the Slaughters."

Make posters out of them to carry at Stop the Slaughters protest rallies.

Other good signs for Stop the Slaughters would be pics of Massacre Mitch, Carnage Cruz, and other Republicans with blood dripping from their hands. Caption: Vote Them Out.

[crickets]

6. Sadly, photos are what it's going to take.

Otherwise, for some the reality just will not sink in. A tiny percentage are so attached to their guns that they won't care. The brutality their weapons can cause is what they want. For almost everyone else, it's the awful reality check that will make the difference. The majority of Americans want gun reform, but they're still sitting down about it. They'd get up and hit the streets in no time if they saw what these poor children are going through when they die.

[Kaleva]

7. AR15 style guns can fire anything from .22 cal. to 12 gauge shotgun shells

Below is a link to a site that sells AR shotguns:

https://atlanticfirearms.com/ar15-shotguns

Here is a link to a site that sells AR style rifles that fire .22LR Rimfire rounds.

https://www.primaryarms.com/ar-15/caliber/22-lr

Remember that AR-15 is a registered trademark of a brand of gun that the patent on expired years ago. Many companies now make their own version of the gun, with some slight modifications, using their own brand name.

It's like how many people call coping machines a Xerox machine even though there are many copying machines that are not made by Xerox or carry that name.

[WarGamer]

8. For a segment of the population... that would be a turn-on.

Not in favor...

[IcyPeas]

13. this is what I fear too.

never forget.... these people are sick fucks.

[Hav]

14. I get the point of the OP

but it might even give an additional boost to copycats due to the increased media attention and what those images might cause in mentally unstable people who are full of hate.

[Lettuce Be]

15. That's what I was going to say -- too many freaks, this cannot happen

Imagine the memes they'd make. Have to vote no as well.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. This is such a fucking ghoulish demand.

[Docreed2003]

11. +1

[TreasonousBastard]

10. Remember this? A viet cong spy is summarily executed by one...

of our "allied" generals..

http://himynameismartinkim.blogspot.com/p/vietnam-war-by-samuel-adams.html?m=0

Having s bit ot trouble getting just the picture to show here, but I think this may have been the point where we started to sanitize war pictures.

Anybody my age will recognize this.

[Docreed2003]

12. I understand the deserve for action, but this is not the way

As a surgeon who has cared for these types of injuries, both in civilian and military settings, I can say most assuredly you do not wish to have that type of horror and trauma spread to folks at large.

[Mr.Bill]

18. I agree. n/t

[SYFROYH]

16. The same pics will be used in propaganda for arming teachers...

….and the failure of local leo.

We are a very different people from the 1950s when Mrs. Till shocked our consciences.

[Leith]

17. I agree

The Japanese show their schoolchildren the aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Not just the bombed buildings, but photos of dead people, burnt where they lay.

As noted above, anti-abortion extremists show pictures of aborted fetuses. They literally shove them in people's faces.

Back in the 1960s, the Vietnam War atrocities were shown on the national news quite often. That changed the national dialogue. It disgusted Americans so badly that they didn't want it to go on anymore.

But something happened after 1970: gore was taken out of the media. Even the famous photos of Kent State weren't that bloody. The Abu Ghraib pictures were shocking, but mostly bloodless and the bodies weren't mangled beyond recognition of being human.

Americans, especially gunhumpers, need to see the results of what their deadly toys can do - and do all too often.

Show the damn photos.

[Delmette2.0]

19. When I was 15 and in Drivers Ed ....

we were shown pictures from the accident scene of 5 young adults that were killed. There is one I will never forget. I can't begin to describe the injury, 50+ years later.
It made me a better, more careful driver.

[FuzzyRabbit]

21. Shock value? Gunshot wounds to adults are bad enough.

I have seen photos of mangled children. I think that photos of mangled children are on a par with photos of child pornography. I say this as a former photo lab technician who printed car wreck photos for the police.

[thucythucy]

22. The photograph of Emmett Till's mutilated body

in his open casket was a visceral shock that told Americans the consequences of ignoring racism, the reality of life in the Jim Crow south.

Till's family deliberately called for an open casket funeral and asked that photographs be printed in national publications.

Gun violence in our movies and TV has historically been pathetically sanitized.

A dose of reality is needed, but then again we all know how adverse many Americans are to reality.

[thucythucy]

24. "Mr. Till" was not a grown man. He was an adolescent,

fourteen years old to be exact.

And the idea isn't to change the minds of gun humpers, just like publishing the photos of Emmett Till wasn't expected to change the hearts of racists. It was to shock the rest of the nation into action. Which it did. The Civil Rights Movement was energized, and many people who had until then not been engaged in the struggle took heed and began paying attention.

Of course the family would have to consent. But the horror of such images pales to the horror of more children dying.

[crickets]

25. Well said. nt