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gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:39 PM May 2022

The Navarro subpoena was suspicious,

Once again it appears I was right in questioning this DOJ subpoena. The number of the grand jury is not the same grand jury that is investigating the insurrection. What this appears to me is an attempt by DOJ to get Navarro to comply with the select committee subpoena. DOJ is trying to get Navarro to turn over documents to the select committee.

That's what my investigators have uncovered, they may be wrong, but the fact remains the number of Navarro's grand jury doesn't jive with the ongoing grand jury number.

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The Navarro subpoena was suspicious, (Original Post) gab13by13 May 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #1
Got a citation for that? Novara May 2022 #2
He got a subpoena to appear by June 2 and they want all documents relating to Trump Bev54 May 2022 #7
You don't know which case the DOJ is pursuing here Novara May 2022 #21
Funny, I don't remember speculating on any case here at all. Bev54 May 2022 #23
So... You may have found Navarro lied but... Blame the DOJ... Ohio Joe May 2022 #3
+1 for the links Tetrachloride May 2022 #4
I don't think so, you do not bring a target into a grand jury, just affiliates. Bev54 May 2022 #5
I agree, gab13by13 May 2022 #8
"most of the time a person given a grand jury subpoena is given immunity" Bullshit Ohio Joe May 2022 #13
Oh boy obamanut2012 May 2022 #20
I don't reveal sources and methods, gab13by13 May 2022 #6
Not meaning any disrespect... but what, exactly, is an internet prosecutor? nt allegorical oracle May 2022 #10
I would interpret it along the lines of sdfernando May 2022 #17
We should know more on Thursday gab13by13 May 2022 #9
Marcy Wheeler noted this subpoena was from Baked Potato May 2022 #11
That would be a reliable source, gab13by13 May 2022 #14
Do you mean the docket or file number? 2naSalit May 2022 #12
You have uncovered a great conspiracy. fightforfreedom May 2022 #15
Dan Goldman explained it, gab13by13 May 2022 #16
Thank you. fightforfreedom May 2022 #18
You are wrong, and so are your investgstors obamanut2012 May 2022 #19
This subpoena is not part of the Jan.6 investigation LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #22
"Your Investigators?" What? MineralMan Jun 2022 #24

Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
7. He got a subpoena to appear by June 2 and they want all documents relating to Trump
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:56 PM
May 2022

and his lawyers, as well as his documents to support his refusal to obey a congressional subpoena.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
21. You don't know which case the DOJ is pursuing here
Tue May 31, 2022, 05:18 PM
May 2022

It hasn't been made public.

Pure speculation. Daniel Goldman said otherwise. He was the House impeachment counsel and I tend to believe what he says. He knows his shit.

At any rate, the inner circle is now a target of the DOJ. We should all be happy about that.

Bring it on.

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
23. Funny, I don't remember speculating on any case here at all.
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:34 PM
May 2022

I was answering a question about what they wanted from him and that is what was reported. I made no mention what it was for.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
3. So... You may have found Navarro lied but... Blame the DOJ...
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:44 PM
May 2022

I'm shocked.

Got any link for your investigators?

Bev54

(10,072 posts)
5. I don't think so, you do not bring a target into a grand jury, just affiliates.
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:55 PM
May 2022

He would be the target of his failure to obey a congressional subpoena

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
8. I agree,
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:59 PM
May 2022

most of the time a person given a grand jury subpoena is given immunity which prevents him from invoking the 5th Amendment. If he doesn't get immunity he will invoke the 5th.

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
13. "most of the time a person given a grand jury subpoena is given immunity" Bullshit
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:22 PM
May 2022

Do you just make stuff up as you go along?

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
6. I don't reveal sources and methods,
Tue May 31, 2022, 03:56 PM
May 2022

but I am certain that Navarro's grand jury number is different than the ongoing grand jury number that is prosecuting insurrectionists.

What this means, I honestly don't know, I am just an internet prosecutor.

sdfernando

(4,941 posts)
17. I would interpret it along the lines of
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:52 PM
May 2022

"I'm not a lawyer but I play one on T.V."

"I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the internet"

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
9. We should know more on Thursday
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:00 PM
May 2022

when Navarro is supposed to appear. We may know more tomorrow when Navarro files his appeal.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
11. Marcy Wheeler noted this subpoena was from
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:08 PM
May 2022

the GJ that subpoenaed Bannon. She was on M. Signorile satellite radio show little while ago.

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
14. That would be a reliable source,
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:23 PM
May 2022

Nicolle isn't on today so I don't expect to learn anything from cable news.

Well Bannon was indicted so that is good news.

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
12. Do you mean the docket or file number?
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:09 PM
May 2022

If this is for a separate GJ, perhaps it's about another crime/criminal in the mix that we haven't heard about yet. I'm certain there are GJs investigating many aspects of the attempts to trash the country. Time will tell.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
15. You have uncovered a great conspiracy.
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:28 PM
May 2022

Garland, the DOJ are going to do nothing, A grand jury subpoenaed Navarro for the hell of it. They want documents, they want to know why he refused to comply with the committee subpoena. It's a cover up I tell you.

gab13by13

(21,402 posts)
16. Dan Goldman explained it,
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:47 PM
May 2022

this has nothing to do with the select committee, this is all about DOJ going after the coup plotters. This is born out because DOJ wants communications between Navarro and Trump.

Go get em Merrick Garland. Going to a different grand jury made zero difference. I am on the Garland train for this one.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
18. Thank you.
Tue May 31, 2022, 04:58 PM
May 2022

I guess he ruined your investigation. I guess we all made this stupid mistake. We believed Navarro. I will not make that mistake again.

He is a head case.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,554 posts)
22. This subpoena is not part of the Jan.6 investigation
Tue May 31, 2022, 07:10 PM
May 2022

The procedure for enforcing a Jan. 6 Committee would be to charge Navarro with contempt

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