Assault-style weapon in deadly Tulsa medical facility shooting was bought that day, sources say

[Celerity]

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/02/us/tulsa-hospital-shooting-thursday/index.html

(CNN) An assault-style weapon found at the scene of Wednesday's deadly shooting in an Oklahoma medical building had been bought that day, according to three federal sources briefed on the investigation.

A gunman -- who was later found dead -- opened fire on the second floor of a medical building on the campus of Saint Francis Hospital in Tulsa on Wednesday afternoon, killing four people. Fewer than 10 others were injured, authorities said.

The assault-style weapon was an AR-15 style firearm, a source said. A different weapon -- a handgun -- was purchased on May 29, a source told CNN.

The two firearms -- a semiautomatic rifle and a semiautomatic pistol -- were both found at the scene, Tulsa police Capt. Richard Meulenberg told CNN earlier. "It was just madness inside, with hundreds of rooms and hundreds of people trying to get out of the building," Meulenberg told CNN.

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[Johnny2X2X]

1. Just insanity

I cannot grasp that we let people buy guns like this same day.

[Captain Zero]

4. what the hell is wrong with a waiting period and background check?

I think there should be a training period too.
Most REAL militias train.
Most REAL countries that care for their citizens BAN these weapons too.

what the fuck is wrong with us?
I'll answer.
Its the fucking NRA and gun manufacturers, and Republicans that are wrong with us.

[Kaleva]

6. I've said that quite often in the Alec Baldwin threads.

That anyone who handles a gun, for any reason, needs at least training on basic gun safety . Many here disagreed.

I've also said that anyone who gets a gun for home defense needs to get training on how to safely handle and store the gun and to formulate a plan as to knowing what situations warrant getting the gun and practice that plan.

[SergeStorms]

17. When I was a young lad...

we had to take a hunter safety course before we could get our first hunting license. It lasted three hours I believe, and was all about gun safety, not about identifying animals or anything.

At the time we thought it was a stone drag, because at 15 years old we knew everything there was to know about everything! Looking back now, I'm glad we had that training because it taught us to respect firearms.

I think everyone buying a firearm of any type would benefit from that type of training now.

[Kaleva]

26. I took a hunter safety course too.

[pandr32]

13. Agreed

[EarlG]

2. "It was just madness inside, with hundreds of rooms...

and hundreds of people trying to get out of the building," Meulenberg told CNN.

Presumably RWers are going to tell us that the solution is to make sure medical buildings only have one door.

[Walleye]

3. I knew it was an assault weapon when the police were calling it a "long gun"

I see now that the problem is the police are a huge part of the gun culture. They can’t bring themselves to speak against guns. And I know many police are in favor of gun legislation. They just don’t express it and support it strongly enough because they’re such right wingers. It’s just a typical case of Republicans voting against their own self interest

[RAB910]

11. Yeah the news and the police went to great pains to hide the facts

the shooter had a military-grade weapon

[mn9driver]

23. It wasn't always this way

Police organizations used to oppose assault-types of weapons with large clips. Then it all changed. TPM has a good rundown on it:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-turn-of-the-police/sharetoken/naJSVCtEOyVm

Should be no paywall.

[Walleye]

24. Thanks, interesting and as I suspected. I think the lack of logic is a real epidemic in this country

[Hugin]

5. "Fewer than 10 others were injured, authorities said."

WTF does that even mean? A statistic? Is it that difficult to count a number less than ten?

[inthewind21]

8. Softens it

a bit by including "fewer than".

[Hugin]

9. Yep.

That's why it was phrased that way. They're lucky I'm not a reporter.

[slumcamper]

20. That leapt out at me too.

Rather unartful wording!

Who actually ARE these CNN "contributors" listed at the end?

I might understand such use of language coming from writers who have made personal peace with this level of mass casualty, "fewer than 10."

Who is responsible for editorial review? Apparently CNN has made comfort with this characterization "fewer than 10."

This is all so dystopian.

[twodogsbarking]

7. Oh what a surprise. Said no one.

[Aristus]

10. But please, for the love of God, let's not have waiting periods and background checks.

We wouldn't want to inconvenience mass murderers...

[NQAS]

14. Hundreds of people trying to get out

Hey, Ted Cruz, I’d this what you mean by “door problem?

BTW, fuck you.

Assault weapon ban.

30-day waiting period for purchase of any other firearm.

That’s a start.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. He should have been made to watch a film, inform his relatives, and have a cooling off period

There's more paperwork to buy a new car and insure it before you drive away.

[samsingh]

16. just in time supply chain of death

designed by the NRA and traitor republicans.

[DFW]

19. The Republicans and the NRA do not see a problem

They encourage all citizens to go out, buy their friends‘ products, read the instructions, and then use as directed.

[DFW]

18. We need to openly ask the rest of the country

If the spouses, children and siblings of EVERY Republican Senator were all killed in such shootings next weekend, how many of them would change their votes against gun control laws?

When the answer comes back a depressing ZERO, it becomes much clearer what we as a country are up against.

[Novara]

21. I'll bet the makers of AR15s are jizzing themselves in glee

Sales are gonna go up exponentially.

You have to be trained before you drive a car. Is it too goddamned much to ask all gun humpers go through some sort of safety training? Sure, you can buy a gun, but you can't take it home today because you have to do some basic safety training first. Is that too much to ask?

[AverageOldGuy]

22. Let us not forget . . .

. . . the MOST IMPORTANT factor in the firearms debate is maintaining the Sanctity of the Sacred Second Amendment.

Excuse me while I puke.