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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWife says Fetterman's doctors 'really impressed' with his progress
I also want to hear directly from the doctors
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https://thehill.com/news/state-watch/3509148-wife-says-fettermans-doctors-really-impressed-with-his-progress/
The neurologists, they were really impressed with the progress. Cognitively, hes perfect and well on his way to a full recovery, Gisele Fetterman told Politico. Everything went well with the cardiologists. His heart is looking good. Pacemaker is working as its supposed to.
She added, however, that the doctors at Penn Medicine Lancaster General Hospital want him to continue to rest.
Gisele Fetterman told the news outlet that doctors are not yet sure when it will be safe for her husband to return to the campaign trail, noting that the campaign will have an announcement for that soon.
jimfields33
(15,827 posts)Seems they havent had one.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)medical BS that they can twist. I suggest those who are not 100% for Fetterman at least not hurt his chances by posting these sorts of articles. Do we want to win the Senate seat or have a pout that Lamb a designated moderate lost convincingly? Priorities folks. Fired up and ready to win this Senate seat. You know Candy is Canadian right...she lives in Alberta.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)if the patient gives permission.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)GOP types to twist the doctor's words. It would be foolish...don't believe anyone who wants to win the seat would suggest that. Remember Hillary...I know some are disappointed that Fetterman won, but for heaven's sake he is the candidate...let's try to remember that.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)for someone upon whom we're relying to win a seat to be completely open book about their health status after a suffering something as serious as a stroke. Not to mention the fact that I was simply stating that it's not a HIPAA violation if the patient gives permission for the medical professional to share medical info.
I don't vote in PA, so it was irrelevant to me which candidate won the primary - I want the seat filled by someone with a 'D' next to their name.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)There is no violation of HIPPA. Doctors hold press conferences to discuss high profile patients' health status all of the time.
Here is a post I made with respect to MTG making really sad claims about HIPPA.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215645481
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On May 18, several GOP members refused to wear masks on the House floor in defiance of House rules on mask-wearing, including Greene. When asked whether she was vaccinated, Greene told reporters that asking about her vaccine status was a HIPAA violation. ....
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA, is a law that prevents health care professionals from sharing private health information without the patient's permission.
But experts agree the interpretation of HIPAA cited by Greene and others online is inaccurate. The law has no bearing on who can ask or answer questions about health status outside a health care setting, they say.....
Alan Meisel, a professor of law and bioethics at the University of Pittsburgh, told USA TODAY at the time that HIPAAs rules apply only to sharing information between "covered entities." The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services describes covered entities as health plans, health care clearinghouses, and those health care providers that conduct certain health care transactions electronically.
Meisel said the claim that HIPAA protected people from being asked about their vaccine status is utter nonsense.
MTG is an idiot
mcar
(42,334 posts)It's too bad his campaign is missing the opportunity to cash in while the Rs are still fighting about counting votes.
SKKY
(11,813 posts)...as long as they're talking about votes, and two-tons of fun is out there complaining about imaginary voter fraud, they're not talking about Fetterman. I figure he's got two solid months of being able to take things easy, make an appearance ever so often, and get himself right before he starts campaigning in earnest.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)It is actually very typical for doctors to discuss with the press the status of a high-profile patient.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)posted. I would not give the GOP an inch on this matter and I can't imagine that you think this would be a good idea. I want to win a Senate seat period.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Not having the facts out gives the RWNJ more freedom. There are some really nasty stuff out there already on Fetterman. I was disgusted by one of these article from a RWNJ paper. I am not going to name the paper or post a link to the article because it is that bad
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)our nominee...they will twist and lie about any such disclosure and there is no there there anyway. I know you supported Lamb but do you want to lose this seat? Fetterman is the nominee and deserves our support.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)I remind you of Comey's sabotage of the campaign with the release of news about re-opening the investigation 11 days before the election
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In addition, the number of sanders voters voting for TFG and the number of Stein voters exceeded TFG's margin of victory in key states.
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I worked hard on the Clinton campaign and was a Clinton delegate to Philadelphia. If you have polling that shows that the medical issue was a reason for Hillary's loss in the electoral college, provide such polling. I trust Nate and the numbers set forth above.
Again, I just saw that there are some real concerns about Fetterman's health
Bettie
(16,110 posts)they will say what they will say regardless of information or lack of information.
They make things up. Note that they keep saying Biden has dementia? If he had a test as their orange guy did, they would spin that as him having dementia but denying it...they will say what they will say and there is literally no way to shut them down, because truth isn't actually something they care about.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)how Republicans twist medical records (Hillary)...I expect the GOP to make such demands but not Democrats.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Link to tweet
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/fettermans-health-return-campaign-trail-mystery-democrats-grow-nervous-rcna31645
Fettermans health and its political implications are no small concern for Democrats. Pennsylvania is widely viewed as their partys best pick-up opportunity in a midterm election cycle in which control of the Senate hinges on the outcome of a handful of races. And his absence from the campaign trail has robbed Democrats of a head start toward the general election. The Republican primary is mired in a recount, with fewer than a thousand votes separating Mehmet Oz the celebrity TV doctor with a background in cardiothoracic surgery and former hedge fund executive Dave McCormick.
I think people Ive talked to myself included dont know what to make of it, said a veteran Pennsylvania Democratic strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly about a sensitive subject. Its not like Fetterman has close institutional allies, so Dems are calling around wanting to ask the question, but no clue where to get a sense of how serious it is. .....
The careful statements from Fettermans campaign since his stroke and surgery have done little to answer lingering questions about his health or whether he has fully disclosed the scope of his heart condition. Several cardiologists told The Philadelphia Inquirer last week that defibrillators are not used to treat atrial fibrillation, the irregular heart rhythm that the campaign has said led to Fettermans stroke. In an interview with Politico, Gisele Fetterman said doctors found no new heart issues during a Wednesday follow-up with the physicians who treated his stroke.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I don't think we should hesitate to discuss this topic honestly, just as everyone should discuss...McConnell's or tRump's health honestly.
It really is okay for Fetterman's wife/Fetterman Campaign to route the flow of information through themselves, as long as what they release is honest as far as it goes and in good faith with the American people. They have a huge job to do -- get him elected, and controlling info's part of it.
But their information-control efforts are not the same as giving the physicians permission to discuss his medical condition publicly, and all my considering in the world wouldn't make it so. Nor can I consider it full disclosure when I have no way of knowing if it is.
One set of standards for all factions and candidates.
mcar
(42,334 posts)he'd have a clear field now to define them.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)There are people getting very nervous.
Celerity
(43,416 posts)Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)It's a bit odd for the space, but they keep cropping up.
Kind of makes one wonder about people's reading materials.
Celerity
(43,416 posts)Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)There's a small anti-Fetterman contingent right here on the DU. They'd rather fight the last primary then support the guy who is our nominee for the Fall election.
Everytime they post these, "gee, I'd like to hear from his doctor becaause he's taking too long to recover," posts it just hurts our side. As Trump would say: Sad.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)BradAllison
(1,879 posts)This primary bothered the fuck out of the people who think all 50 states need to run Joe Manchin-like candidates OR ElSE wE WILL lOOssee.....
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)is a good thing as he is like all the others before him who lost Senate seats. Keep putting this stuff up...I don't understand why as it seems to help Republicans.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)The primary is over. He needs our support.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)nominee they support. I support all nominees regardless of whether they are moderates or progressives... A Democrat needs to win this and other Senate seats...our Republic is at stake.
Tree-Hugger
(3,370 posts)I voted for Fetterman in the primary. I would have voted for Lamb in the general if he was the nominee.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and our senate candidate's health is of interest to the entire party. Guarantee, those watching the senate for Biden, Harris, Schumer, McConnell, and whole a bunch of others, are getting updates whenever and however available.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary, I did expect that you would support our Democratic candidate after the primary. I must say, I am disappointed.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)Just to make sure, ya know?
I imagine that tune would be very, very different.
dsc
(52,163 posts)we would be seeing those demands. It isn't unreasonable to want such updates.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)That all this concern is coming from anti-Left spaces.
I'm sure it's unrelated.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)When the opposition is eating their own...let them. I see many Lamb supporters wanting a do-over. Lamb wouldn't win a general so it would be nice if some supported the Democratic nominee and didn't say what is essentially...GOP talking points.
Celerity
(43,416 posts)Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Lamb supporters who seemingly are not yet willing to support the Democratic nominee.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)Would it had made any difference if only the article from The Hill was posted?
I wish Fetterman the best of health; however, if I were a voter in Pennsylvania I would want more information disclosed on Fetterman's health since the governor can name his replacement. If there are serious questions about his prognosis, then consideration should be given to having another candidate in the race. It would be a disaster if Mastriano named a replacement who stayed in office for five years (I don't know PA rules about special elections). I also hope that Fetterman would step aside if he is not capable of either campaigning or performing the duties of the job as senator.
I'm sorry, but it isn't honorable or respectful to voters for any candidate to withhold information that could potentially affect their job performance. Personally, I think that the considerations about withholding information apply to any person seeking a new job in any occupational field.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)no reason to do so. Do you wish to lose the seat?
TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)I can also see that independent voters would vote Republican if they don't believe Fetterman is being transparent with them--particularly if they believe that they might avoid a "special election" and also avoid the cost to the taxpayers by doing so.
I'm glad that his wife's word is good enough for you. The bigger question is whether Fetterman's wife's word is good enough for the undecided voters. That's why most voters are going to look forward to the professional opinion by Fetterman's physicians as to his fitness for the job rather than his wife.
kcr
(15,317 posts)You'll vote for the Republican?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)There are a good number of Democrats who are very worried about Fetterman's health
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/fettermans-health-return-campaign-trail-mystery-democrats-grow-nervous-rcna31645
Fetterman, the states lieutenant governor, has appeared publicly only in recorded video since the stroke. His wife is speaking to the media on his behalf. And the situation has prompted Democrats to refresh their knowledge of state ballot-replacement law the deadline is in August according to two party sources who said they dont anticipate a candidate switch being necessary......
There has been no indication of a timeline for Fettermans return to the trail, said an elected Pennsylvania Democrat who has interacted with Fetterman. A lot of us Democratic Party types are very nervous about it. The official, who asked not to be named to avoid blowback from his party, said Fetterman needs to be transparent both because its the right thing to do and good politics.....
The careful statements from Fettermans campaign since his stroke and surgery have done little to answer lingering questions about his health or whether he has fully disclosed the scope of his heart condition. Several cardiologists told The Philadelphia Inquirer last week that defibrillators are not used to treat atrial fibrillation, the irregular heart rhythm that the campaign has said led to Fettermans stroke. In an interview with Politico, Gisele Fetterman said doctors found no new heart issues during a Wednesday follow-up with the physicians who treated his stroke.
I would urge the Fetterman campaign to make full disclosure and provide Fetterman's doctors to answer questions about Fetterman's health
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)It's going to be at least 2 weeks before Fetterman knows who his opponent is going to be.
Everything is fine and we don't need to make an issue of John's health.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)contribute to a loss of the PA Senate seat. I won't take part in such a thing.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Rob H.
(5,352 posts)Wow. The sense of entitlement is palpable.
DFW
(54,409 posts)I would be wary of inviting "the lady doth protest too much" comments.
If he's doing well, fine. Let him quietly get back to full speed, and then show him coming out swinging. A stream of "full recovery is just around the corner" statements is very vague, and not in the slightest convincing without specifics. This Senate seat will not be handed to us on a silver platter. We do not need to lose it over unduly heightened expectations.
mcar
(42,334 posts)is concerning.
He can't record a brief video statement to show everyone he's doing OK and is on the mend?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)According to Politico, the Fetterman campaign is not allowing Fetterman's doctors speak as to Fetterman's condition.
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I hope that there is nothing to hide. I personally believe in full disclosure and this Follcall article explains why full disclosure is needed to protect voters.
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https://rollcall.com/2022/05/25/an-rx-for-politicians-full-medical-disclosure/
The New York Times, in an article by Gina Kolata and Katie Glueck, raised questions about Fettermans medical situation and the pace of his recovery. As the Times reported, Specialists in stroke, heart disease and electrophysiology said that some of the campaigns public statements do not offer a sufficient explanation for Mr. Fettermans described diagnosis or the treatment they say he has received.....
Medical privacy is a cherished right, and it is understandable that men and women running for high office are reluctant to release their intimate medical histories. That may explain why the Fetterman campaign has been so elusive about the details of the candidates stroke.
The problem is that America has a long history of presidents and other top officials dissembling or even outright lying about their medical conditions. .....
Alas, it is nearly impossible to legislate medical honesty. Back in 2015, Trumps doctor, Harold Bornstein, released an over-the-top letter claiming that the overweight reality TV star will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. It turns out (shocking revelation ahead) that Trump himself wrote the letter.
But the voters should demand full medical disclosure from candidates for major office especially after a serious event like a stroke or heart attack. The health of the nation requires the full truth, even when the details are not what the doctor ordered.
I am personally praying that Fetterman is okay and can get back onto the campaign trail to beat Dr. Oz or the other GOP asshole. We need to win as many Penn. races as possible and I am really worried about the Penn. Governor's race. If the GOP controls the governor office in 2024, we can kiss winning Penn. electoral votes goodbye.
Autumn
(45,107 posts)you a links and you are ignoring them in your "concern" But by all means please continue. How odd you chose to believe the media and their spin that defibrillator are not used for afib. But them maybe not so odd.
And again
An implantable cardioverter defibrillator (ICD) looks similar to a pacemaker, though slightly larger. It works very much like a pacemaker. But the ICD can send an energy shock that resets an abnormal heartbeat back to normal. Many devices combine a pacemaker and ICD in one unit for people who need both functions.
An implantable cardioverter defibrillator is a device for people who are prone to life-threatening rapid heart rhythms. It is slightly larger than a pacemaker and usually is implanted beneath the skin below the collarbone. It is connected to a defibrillation/pace wire(s) positioned inside the heart via a vein. It has the capability of delivering an electric shock to the heart when it determines the heart rate is too fast. It also is capable of pacing or stimulating the heart when it is going too slow.
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/conditions/atrial-fibrillation/treatment
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TexasTowelie
(112,252 posts)rather than rely on what Fetterman's wife states. Her commentary on Fetterman's health should be considered as the remarks of a layperson rather than as the qualified opinion of a medical professional.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)It was foolish to think you'd be ok with the results of this primary.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,321 posts)Recent history has provided good reason why full disclosure is necessary. Here are some examples from the Roll Call article cited above
https://rollcall.com/2022/05/25/an-rx-for-politicians-full-medical-disclosure/
John F. Kennedy was a prime example, hiding from the public the heavy dosage of steroids he was taking to treat his Addisons disease. As historian Robert Dallek wrote in The Atlantic, The lifelong health problems of John F. Kennedy constitute one of the best-kept secrets of recent U.S. history no surprise, because if the extent of those problems had been revealed while he was alive, his presidential ambitions would likely have been dashed.
More recently, Bernie Sanders had a heart attack in October 2019, but all through the 2020 presidential primary season, the Vermont senator refused to release detailed medical records.
Far more alarmingly, Donald Trump tested positive for COVID-19 three days before his first 2020 debate with Joe Biden and covered it up. And then Trump, when he became sick, hid from the public that his blood oxygen levels had dropped so low that doctors were considering putting the president on a ventilator.
Sanders' heart attack was troublesome but Sanders was never going to be the nominee of the party based on the plan of only getting at mot 30% of the vote in the primaries. After South Carolina and Super Tuesday, it was clear that Sanders had no chance of being the nominee. TFG's hiding his COVID during the first debate was truly disgusting.
Again, full disclosure of all medical issues is the right thing to do. If Fetterman is really healthy, then have his doctors meet with the press and provide full disclosure
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