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Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:39 PM Jun 2022

Has any solid Blue state voted to ratify an Amendment that would repeal the 2nd?

Been bouncing around doing Google searches but haven't found any and I haven't found any sources discussing a serious effort in any state to do so.

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Has any solid Blue state voted to ratify an Amendment that would repeal the 2nd? (Original Post) Kaleva Jun 2022 OP
No. Of course not. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #1
An amendment comes from Congress and you need super majority - Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #2
States can pass laws that ban guns if SCOTUS or Congress ever curtail the 2A. LonePirate Jun 2022 #8
It is also why states have codified the right to choose in their constitutions. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #10
Why would we waste our time? SCOTUS isn't going to change their ruling on guns...and Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #21
Why would they inthewind21 Jun 2022 #3
They can't FBaggins Jun 2022 #4
They can call for a convention of states to propose such an amendment. Kaleva Jun 2022 #9
Nope FBaggins Jun 2022 #12
South Carolina Senate just recently called for a convention of states Kaleva Jun 2022 #17
Did you note why all the Democrats voted against it? FBaggins Jun 2022 #18
Wouldn't you still need 3/4 of the states to approve any Admendment the Convention passes? Kaleva Jun 2022 #19
Why would you want a convention? ripcord Jun 2022 #20
They can codify as part of the state constitution. It is possible and the way things are going with gldstwmn Jun 2022 #11
State constitution won't override the Federal one. DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #13
Without going to Google does McDonald give people the right to bear assault weapons? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #15
No DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #16
Not really FBaggins Jun 2022 #14
Since it is an amendment to the constitution pwb Jun 2022 #5
You can't even get every Blue state to pass an AWB hack89 Jun 2022 #6
How many solid Blue states have even repealed 2A language in their state constitutions? hack89 Jun 2022 #7

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
2. An amendment comes from Congress and you need super majority -
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:42 PM
Jun 2022

2/3 from both houses. And then 3/4 of state legislatures must approve it for ratification...not possible right now.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
8. States can pass laws that ban guns if SCOTUS or Congress ever curtail the 2A.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:01 PM
Jun 2022

Those are why abortion will be banned in over half the states once SCOTUS issues its ruling the Dobbs case later this month.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
10. It is also why states have codified the right to choose in their constitutions.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

But really why should we have to codify these things in our state constitutions? I thought we stopped doing that with Jim Crow.

Demsrule86

(68,593 posts)
21. Why would we waste our time? SCOTUS isn't going to change their ruling on guns...and
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:14 PM
Jun 2022

we don't have 2/3 of the House or Senate to create an amendment. Nor can we get 38 state legislatures to sign on.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
3. Why would they
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:43 PM
Jun 2022

It takes 38 states to ratify an amendment to the constitution. It would be a waste of time.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
9. They can call for a convention of states to propose such an amendment.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:10 PM
Jun 2022

"A convention of states is a convention called by the state legislatures for the purpose of proposing amendments to the Constitution. They are given power to do this under Article V of the Constitution. "

https://conventionofstates.com/what-is-a-convention-of-states

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
17. South Carolina Senate just recently called for a convention of states
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:24 PM
Jun 2022

"The 27-13 vote by the South Carolina Senate gave key approval to the proposal that supporters said would limit the convention to a few items — spending checks on the federal government, limiting the federal government’s jurisdiction and power, and setting term limits for Congress."

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-03-09/south-carolina-senate-oks-call-for-constitutional-convention

FBaggins

(26,748 posts)
18. Did you note why all the Democrats voted against it?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:31 PM
Jun 2022

Because there is no such option as a convention that is limited to just certain amendments

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
19. Wouldn't you still need 3/4 of the states to approve any Admendment the Convention passes?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:37 PM
Jun 2022

According to some.

"Supporters said whatever amendments suggested by the convention would have to be passed by three-fourths of the states — 38 legislatures or special conventions."

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-03-09/south-carolina-senate-oks-call-for-constitutional-convention

ripcord

(5,409 posts)
20. Why would you want a convention?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:58 PM
Jun 2022

A constitutional convention is not controlled by population but by state votes, it take 34 states to call a convention and 38 to pass an amendment. Right now republicans control 32 of the 50 states and are pushing for a convention, they want to pass a balanced budget amendment and one for congressional term limits. They would love to get into gun laws because they would have the best chance by far of getting their agenda passed.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
11. They can codify as part of the state constitution. It is possible and the way things are going with
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:12 PM
Jun 2022

guns do not be surprised if it happens.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
13. State constitution won't override the Federal one.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 05:18 PM
Jun 2022

Federal law and Constitution has supremacy over state law and constitutions. A state could amend their constitution to ban guns and it wouldn't be valid due to the Federal 2A and Mcdonald ruling.

pwb

(11,276 posts)
5. Since it is an amendment to the constitution
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:48 PM
Jun 2022

it can be amended but the process takes a super majority of states. Their color matters not. The Numbers matter and there is no chance to repeal it. Agreeing to Amend it could happen. IMO.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
7. How many solid Blue states have even repealed 2A language in their state constitutions?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 04:57 PM
Jun 2022

repealing the 2A is not a mainstream view, even in blue states. I live in one - supporters can't even get an AWB passed.

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