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ancianita

(36,095 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:00 PM Jun 2022

THE BIDEN PLAN TO END OUR GUN VIOLENCE EPIDEMIC

Joe Biden knows that gun violence is a public health epidemic. Almost 40,000 people die as a result of firearm injuries every year in the United States, and many more are wounded. Some of these deaths and injuries are the result of mass shootings that make national headlines. Others are the result of daily acts of gun violence or suicides that may not make national headlines, but are just as devastating to the families and communities left behind.

Joe Biden has taken on the National Rifle Association (NRA) on the national stage and won – twice. In 1993, he shepherded through Congress the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, which established the background check system that has since kept more than 3 million firearms out of dangerous hands. In 1994, Biden – along with Senator Dianne Feinstein – secured the passage of 10-year bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. As president, Joe Biden will defeat the NRA again.

Joe Biden also knows how to make progress on reducing gun violence using executive action. After the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012, President Obama tasked Vice President Biden with developing both legislative proposals and executive actions to make our communities safer. As a result of this effort, the Obama-Biden Administration took more than two dozen actions, including narrowing the so-called “gun show loophole,” increasing the number of records in the background check system, and expanding funding for mental health services.

It’s within our grasp to end our gun violence epidemic and respect the Second Amendment, which is limited. As president, Biden will pursue constitutional, common-sense gun safety policies.

Biden will:

Hold gun manufacturers accountable.
In 2005, then-Senator Biden voted against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, but gun manufacturers successfully lobbied Congress to secure its passage. This law protects these manufacturers from being held civilly liable for their products – a protection granted to no other industry. Biden will prioritize repealing this protection.

Get weapons of war off our streets.
The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them.

As president, Biden will:

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It’s wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don’t limit the weapon’s lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.
Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities.
Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

Reduce stockpiling of weapons.
In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.

Much more at:


https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

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THE BIDEN PLAN TO END OUR GUN VIOLENCE EPIDEMIC (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2022 OP
Great Plan SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #1
It is. And he'll do much of it through the Executive Branch, not the Legislative Branch. ancianita Jun 2022 #3
There is one thing on that list that can be done via EO DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #6
That should read "as President, Biden will beg and plead with Manchin and Sinema to pass..." nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #2
Or he'll get Chuck to do a carve out? ancianita Jun 2022 #4
Needs Manchin and Sinema to approve a carve out. DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2022 #7
As President he'll make sure that enough Democrats are elected to the Senate FakeNoose Jun 2022 #8
Just asked my Senators and Congresscritter to support this plan in its entirety. TygrBright Jun 2022 #5
Do all you can by presidential order and then some. Let the killer supporters kacekwl Jun 2022 #9
Exactly. Also, starting his plan with "a national health threat" opens a door to action. Also, ancianita Jun 2022 #10
If the GQP wants to be the Party of Mass Murder BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #14
Livestream link for his 7:30 speech tonight IronLionZion Jun 2022 #11
Thank you! ancianita Jun 2022 #12
How did Bush 43 allow the AWB to expire? Zeitghost Jun 2022 #13
He was pressured by Republicans who didn't want to continue the AWB. ancianita Jun 2022 #16
Pressured to do what? Zeitghost Jun 2022 #20
Not to fight for the Assault Weapons Ban 10-year sunset clause to be extended. So he caved. ancianita Jun 2022 #21
I guess he could have been a better cheerleader Zeitghost Jun 2022 #25
He followed in Reagan's poser footsteps as a tough moderate who caved to the worst of his party. ancianita Jun 2022 #26
I'm not hearing anything about executive actions Novara Jun 2022 #15
I knew he wouldn't. His plan can press manufacturers, but maybe he doesn't want to tip them off. ancianita Jun 2022 #17
He's pretty much avoided using EOs for anything. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #42
Re-instate the assault weapons ban that W let expire and start a buy-back like Canada is doing. Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #18
The data on no dead children and fewer overall gun deaths might help sell this idea. ancianita Jun 2022 #22
That might be the DNC or MSM job to show the real numbers? Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #28
Sure. Unfortunately, DNC campaigns with constant PHOTOS of the carnage of innocents will help, too. ancianita Jun 2022 #30
I appreciate your ideas. I think the die has been cast and it will be a bloody time. I don't say Evolve Dammit Jun 2022 #34
Perhaps Laurence Tribe-level scholars can help with legislation that makes sure ancianita Jun 2022 #19
"That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children." Botany Jun 2022 #23
Yes. And in allowing the ongoing death of innocence, undoes its own identity as America. ancianita Jun 2022 #24
No matter what is passed, nothing will matter if failing to ENFORCE the laws is not made a big crime Samrob Jun 2022 #27
Exactly. Who polices the police. Who enforces laws. Enforcement has been the real democracy crisis. ancianita Jun 2022 #29
All of this!!! nt Samrob Jun 2022 #33
That is a part of the current problem quakerboy Jun 2022 #39
Without holding onto the House, gaining a few in the Senate, AND killing the filibuster NickB79 Jun 2022 #31
One fight at a time. I hear you. We look good to gain in both houses, imo. ancianita Jun 2022 #32
da plan... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #35
Don't be defeatist. Don't be easily discouraged. It takes 81 million of us to do better AGAIN ancianita Jun 2022 #37
don't... myohmy2 Jun 2022 #41
"In the last 20 years, more school age kids have died by gun than police and soldiers combined." SunSeeker Jun 2022 #36
We need to lead every speech with that statistic. ancianita Jun 2022 #38
It's not being 'defeatist' to acknowledge the truth. J_William_Ryan Jun 2022 #40

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
1. Great Plan
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:07 PM
Jun 2022

Sorry Joe, not a snowball's chance in hell of a single item on that list going anywhere.

I like how the statement refers to laws passed in 1993 & 1994. That was then, this is now, and now we're way too far gone for anything close to those ideas gaining traction in the Senate. Or the House for that matter, should Democrats lose the majority in November.

It would be much better if you simply tell people that they should get used to these mass shootings, as you should also settle yourself for more in-person visits with traumatized families of the deceased from gun violence.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
3. It is. And he'll do much of it through the Executive Branch, not the Legislative Branch.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:12 PM
Jun 2022

Some of it you're correct about, but some of it he can do by "executive agreement" with, for example, gun manufacturers abroad, like Trump did with oil from the Saudi.

Why do you say

It would be much better if you simply tell people that they should get used to these mass shootings, as you should also settle yourself for more in-person visits with traumatized families of the deceased from gun violence.


There should be no "getting used to" The People's infringement of the First Amendment by the Second Amendment.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
6. There is one thing on that list that can be done via EO
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jun 2022

He can ban the importation of guns. Bush 41 already banned a bunch of assault rifles from importation back in 1989. Everything else requires legislation to accomplish. Well, maybe he could do a buyback if he can figure out a way to use already appropriated funds from something else.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
7. Needs Manchin and Sinema to approve a carve out.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:25 PM
Jun 2022

If they don't go for it, then the attempt to make a carve out will fail.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
8. As President he'll make sure that enough Democrats are elected to the Senate
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

... so we don't have to BEG and PLEAD with either Manchin or Sinema. F**K them! The Dems will win in November and neither of those evil twins will matter any more.

TygrBright

(20,762 posts)
5. Just asked my Senators and Congresscritter to support this plan in its entirety.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jun 2022

One of the Senate staffers said something about 'seeking bipartisan solutions' and it pushed my button.

As nicely as possible I said "President Biden's plan is far beyond any half-assed figleaf that 'bipartisan' messing around could ever accomplish so please tell the Senator to screw bipartisanship and help President Biden with this plan."

The staffer was not at all offended.

appreciatively,
Bright

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
9. Do all you can by presidential order and then some. Let the killer supporters
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

fight in court and in the open.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
10. Exactly. Also, starting his plan with "a national health threat" opens a door to action. Also,
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 06:39 PM
Jun 2022

not for nothing, in NM, they got ahead of the curve, fought lazy police, and denied qualified immunity throughout the whole state.

Because sometimes you've really got to police the police while all this mess isn't even prevented, except for driving, sitting, sleeping, jogging, shopping and worshipping while Black. Or Chicano.

One state, New Mexico, is doing this. The other blue states should, as well, so that police shape up and take the side of their paymasters, not their Guns Over People right wing 'friends.'

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
13. How did Bush 43 allow the AWB to expire?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jun 2022

I don't recall Congress ever sending him an extension, the one he pledged to sign. Am I missing something?

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
16. He was pressured by Republicans who didn't want to continue the AWB.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jun 2022

"The president doesn't set the Congressional timetable. Congress sets the timetable," then-White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters, who asked what Bush was going to do to get the ban renewed.

Tom DeLay got paid, probably. Led by Tom DeLay, who called the ban "feel-good" legislation, the House failed to bring the legislation to the floor for debate or a vote, PBS reported at the time.

Manufacturers put on the pressure. So much for the tough negotiation Republicans always brag of. After pressure from Smith & Wesson, in 2005 Bush signed legislation providing the gun industry federal protection against lawsuits.

Bush caved. He didn't fight DeLay.

After that it was DC vs Heller decision that made 2A an individual rather than just a 'regulated militia' thing.

Big Gun -- the NRA, manufacturers and foreign (EU) import deal makers -- has since bought Republicans.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
21. Not to fight for the Assault Weapons Ban 10-year sunset clause to be extended. So he caved.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:09 PM
Jun 2022

They wouldn't if he'd fought them. But he wouldn't fight them. Even gun owners felt betrayed because he seemed to be on the side of not using military weapons.

Zeitghost

(3,862 posts)
25. I guess he could have been a better cheerleader
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jun 2022

But the Republicans held both houses for most of the time and they were never going to send one to his desk.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
26. He followed in Reagan's poser footsteps as a tough moderate who caved to the worst of his party.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:18 PM
Jun 2022

Having sold out to Big Corps Fossil, Big Pharma and Big Guns, they began the stripping rights and political theater, which was the corporate neoliberal agenda of austerity economics and keeping the People confounded about their turn to fascist bag man rackets and grift.

Novara

(5,843 posts)
15. I'm not hearing anything about executive actions
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jun 2022

Biden has the authority to take executive actions. Let them sue him afterwards, but DO SOMETHING.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
17. I knew he wouldn't. His plan can press manufacturers, but maybe he doesn't want to tip them off.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jun 2022

His tip also requires 5 kinds of legislation to enact those parts of his plan where you see legislation underlined.

It was reported on Monday that Biden and his advisers might have exhausted their options on executive action to address guns. But they say they continue to explore avenues for unilateral action.

Biden said, "There's the Constitution. I can't dictate this stuff. I can do the things I've done, and any executive action I can take I'll continue to take. But I can't outlaw a weapon, I can't change the background checks. I can't do that."

Voltaire2

(13,061 posts)
42. He's pretty much avoided using EOs for anything.
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 06:50 AM
Jun 2022

I have no idea what the reasons are, but it is infuriating. Trump built his fucking stupid wall using an EO.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
18. Re-instate the assault weapons ban that W let expire and start a buy-back like Canada is doing.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

Limit the number of purchases, increase background scrutiny, and eliminate the private sale and gun show loopholes. And PS: fuck anyone who doesn't think those are "conservative" measures to take in a country gone insane since the AWB was repealed. "Conservatives" my ass. You are full-on fascists.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
30. Sure. Unfortunately, DNC campaigns with constant PHOTOS of the carnage of innocents will help, too.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:27 PM
Jun 2022

Numbers might matter to some voters, but as we know, not to a Republican Party that will try to nullify popular votes across red states.

This is going to be uphill. We all have to get a good elevator pitch ready for any Republican encounters. Something about how once innocence is mass murdered, 2A has infringed on, NOT protected, 1A.

Personally I like the idea of the DNC selling T shirts with a photo of a dead Uvalde child, and the question above or below it:

Guns Over People (GOP)? Is this the soul of America now?

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)
34. I appreciate your ideas. I think the die has been cast and it will be a bloody time. I don't say
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jun 2022

that lightly. GOP does not care at all. Not to mention the millions that don't even vote.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
19. Perhaps Laurence Tribe-level scholars can help with legislation that makes sure
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

gun laws can rightfully control the existence of military assault weapons such that 2A doesn't infringe on the majority of Americans' rights to 1A. The CDC provides national evidence of loss, harm and damage to the publc's health. Not just death, but costs to communities nationwide.

Sandy Hook parents won a suit against a manufacturer, which is a precedent for other suits that need to follow.

If mass shootings continue, there might actually be 37 states that would ratify the rewriting of the Second Amendment.

So I've gotta ask, where are the lawyers for 1A? ACLU?

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
24. Yes. And in allowing the ongoing death of innocence, undoes its own identity as America.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jun 2022

edit: Federal law also gives more bodily autonomy protection to corpses than to girls and women.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
27. No matter what is passed, nothing will matter if failing to ENFORCE the laws is not made a big crime
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:20 PM
Jun 2022

You can put laws on the books for liability of gun manufactures, waiting periods, raising age limits, banning assault weapons, background checks etc. None of it will matter much if those who have the responsibility for enforcing those laws can just ignore the law with little or no consequence. Stiff criminal charges against retailers, collectors, owners etc. must be a major part of gun regulation laws. How about mandatory minimums for those guilty of violating the law? No consequences means nothing will change.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
29. Exactly. Who polices the police. Who enforces laws. Enforcement has been the real democracy crisis.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:23 PM
Jun 2022

All this party of NO, procedural delay, failure to prosecute a criminal president, the mobilization of armed militias, police murders of Blacks, the right wing pro-Republican bias of the FBI, have all become an interlocked gridlock in enforcement from the top down.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
39. That is a part of the current problem
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:07 PM
Jun 2022

The hardcore gunners twirl between screaming bloody murder anytime any law enforcement tries to enforce any existing gun law, and then as soon as there's a public shooting, screaming we cant have new gun laws, why wont you just enforce the laws we already have.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
31. Without holding onto the House, gaining a few in the Senate, AND killing the filibuster
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:28 PM
Jun 2022

All of these are pie in the sky. I don't see a single one that would get to Biden's desk for his signature.

Might as well offer up ponies and Ferrari's if we don't do a serious GOTV effort this fall.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
37. Don't be defeatist. Don't be easily discouraged. It takes 81 million of us to do better AGAIN
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:44 PM
Jun 2022

so they can act.

myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
41. don't...
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 12:40 AM
Jun 2022

...you find it sad that with all the violent and horrific gun deaths we have regularly in this country that we've made so little headway and progress?

...we must not be very good at communications...

...what's changed?

...

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
36. "In the last 20 years, more school age kids have died by gun than police and soldiers combined."
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jun 2022

Glad he said that fact. It has been an unmitigated carnage of our kids.

Great speech.

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
38. We need to lead every speech with that statistic.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:45 PM
Jun 2022

Agree. It was a great presidential speech from a great leader.

J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
40. It's not being 'defeatist' to acknowledge the truth.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:33 PM
Jun 2022

There is no political will in Congress to enact any new firearm regulations.

This is not an issue that generates votes for Democrats, regardless what the opinion polls say.

Republicans will run out to clock until November.

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