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Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,230 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:43 PM Jun 2022

I really love Joe but I still wish he went down on guns harder than he did.

I understand why he didn't but we need to go full on Britain or Australia... Or Germany, Or Japan...

Just look at the fucking statistics!



Too many people here are frightened by the NRA, Q and the totally ignorant.

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I really love Joe but I still wish he went down on guns harder than he did. (Original Post) Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2022 OP
Stop it. Nothing is ever enough for you people. Srkdqltr Jun 2022 #1
agree demtenjeep Jun 2022 #14
We're not Britain or Australia. onenote Jun 2022 #2
Yes. elleng Jun 2022 #7
He's still talking. What's wrong? Hekate Jun 2022 #3
He's going for what might be possible now. Which is the right strategy. highplainsdem Jun 2022 #4
Exactly FalloutShelter Jun 2022 #8
Joe isn't the problem relayerbob Jun 2022 #5
Joe knows what's possible & knows it's about November. We don't need blowback by angling for 2 much bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #6
yes he does..elect more Democrats... agingdem Jun 2022 #13
Prodding Congress isn't enough Novara Jun 2022 #9
Agreed DET Jun 2022 #12
Try voting and an executive order will not work...it will be knocked down in a New York minute. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #16
... mcar Jun 2022 #10
"I understand why he didn't but we need to go full on Britain or Australia... Or Germany, Or Japan.. Tom Yossarian Joad Jun 2022 #11
We are not Britain or Australia...we will be lucky to get anything. Some are never happy. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #15
I think he should have gone the other way. SYFROYH Jun 2022 #17
He wants to try to actually get something done JI7 Jun 2022 #18

FalloutShelter

(11,870 posts)
8. Exactly
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jun 2022

Let’s not make the perfect the enemy of the possible.

What does it profit Democrats to push legislation that is no chance of passing? Getting them on the record? They are on the record.

bucolic_frolic

(43,196 posts)
6. Joe knows what's possible & knows it's about November. We don't need blowback by angling for 2 much
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
Jun 2022

We need what action we can get, and to put the pressure on the Senate and voters, and keep the ball moving.

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
13. yes he does..elect more Democrats...
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

a bigger majority in the Senate renders Mitch (and Manchin) irrelevant..and that's Biden's point..hell in raining down on the Republicans to do something, anything and Biden knows it...get it done or he will..

Novara

(5,844 posts)
9. Prodding Congress isn't enough
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:54 PM
Jun 2022

And it never works. There's no way to get 10 republicans to vote for any gun reform. It just isn't possible.

He can take executive actions, and he should. Make them sue him, but DO SOMETHING.

Prodding Congress is useless.

DET

(1,323 posts)
12. Agreed
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

Nothing consequential will happen in Congress. Biden needs to issue an executive order. Let them sue.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,230 posts)
11. "I understand why he didn't but we need to go full on Britain or Australia... Or Germany, Or Japan..
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jun 2022

But I can wish. This is a step. a small step and it may be all that many think he can get away with.

We need to go nuclear in this argument and get truly aggressive.

Guns are fucking up America/

SYFROYH

(34,172 posts)
17. I think he should have gone the other way.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:11 PM
Jun 2022


He could have changed the game if he said he promises not to sign an AWB into law, even though he wants one, if he got the raised age for possession and purchase, red flag law support, and universal background check.




JI7

(89,252 posts)
18. He wants to try to actually get something done
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 08:26 PM
Jun 2022

We are backwards nation so it's not possible to be where other modern civilized countries are right now.

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