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In It to Win It

(8,254 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:19 PM Jun 2022

Some Ohio teachers 'terrified' over new bill allowing educators to carry guns in school

ABC News via Yahoo News

Teachers in Ohio are frustrated after lawmakers passed a bill Wednesday that would allow them and other school staff to carry guns in school safety zones, with little training.

The bill overrules an Ohio Supreme Court decision from last year that required teachers to receive gun training equivalent to the training police officers receive. If signed into law by the governor, it would create a minimum training commitment of 24 hours for teachers who voluntarily choose to carry guns in schools.

"I think that the idea to arm teachers is a way for lawmakers to pass the buck on much bigger issues," Tate Moore, a seventh-grade English teacher in Ohio, told ABC News.

Moore said he is worried about the "unintended consequences" of teachers carrying guns in schools, saying something bad could happen.

"It seems like more things are getting added to our plate. And nothing is being taken off," Moore said. "I'm just not sure how much more teachers can take."

Moore said it is not a teacher's job to stop a school shooter.

"I have yet to find one teacher who thinks it's a good idea for teachers to carry firearms," he said.
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Some Ohio teachers 'terrified' over new bill allowing educators to carry guns in school (Original Post) In It to Win It Jun 2022 OP
This is the stupidest Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #1
Tell me about it. Their plan for stopping shootings in school is In It to Win It Jun 2022 #3
Terrified enough to stop electing Retrumplicans in Ohio? maxrandb Jun 2022 #2
Back in 2018 Texas passed a couple of laws. Igel Jun 2022 #4
as a teacher-no fucking way demtenjeep Jun 2022 #5
My wife is a sub here in SW Ohio and she is terrified of this bill. AND PISSED OFF. madinmaryland Jun 2022 #6
Not like anyone even thought Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #7
Jesus...we just moved to Northeast Ohio last year... PittBlue Jun 2022 #8
Just wait until the first school shooting is successfully thwarted by an armed PTWB Jun 2022 #9
That will probably happen In It to Win It Jun 2022 #10
It's MUCH More Likely That What Will Happen............ ChoppinBroccoli Jun 2022 #11

maxrandb

(15,334 posts)
2. Terrified enough to stop electing Retrumplicans in Ohio?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:27 PM
Jun 2022

Or will a $10 a month tax cut for them, and a $2,000 a month tax cut for Dewine be enough to assuage their fear?

Igel

(35,317 posts)
4. Back in 2018 Texas passed a couple of laws.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:35 PM
Jun 2022

The first allowed teachers to have guns on school grounds, with district permission.

The second restricted it to teachers in a "school marshall" program (there may be an alternative to that; dunno). Additional training, must be supervised and reported to the school admin, gun (only handguns) must be kept in locked, secure location (which does *not* mean "in the school cop's locked desk inside the school cop's locked office&quot .

I don't even know if my school district has approved this, but I doubt it.

I do know teachers that I'd trust with firearms at school. Not always the ones that would participate, of course. The programs require training way past what's necessary for concealed weapon permits, but not nearly what cops need. (When you read the descriptions, you usually just hear that the teachers would need the additional training--no mention of the other prerequisite training.)

No, open-carry laws do *not* apply here.

Now, this has been going on for 4 years. In four years with a couple hundred school districts approving this, I haven't heard of a single case where this mattered--for good or for bad. No stolen guns, no teachers going ballistic, no teachers downing some beserker.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
6. My wife is a sub here in SW Ohio and she is terrified of this bill. AND PISSED OFF.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:37 PM
Jun 2022

Our state is really fucked up.

Diamond_Dog

(32,005 posts)
7. Not like anyone even thought
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jun 2022

to actually ask any teachers what they thought! Those slimy bastards just shoved this insane law through and Dummy DeWine is salivating to sign it. Insanity.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
9. Just wait until the first school shooting is successfully thwarted by an armed
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jun 2022

teacher. We will have Republican controlled states enacting copycat laws before the shooter’s body is cold while they cheer for this as the end-all, be-all solution.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
11. It's MUCH More Likely That What Will Happen............
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:43 PM
Jun 2022

...........is a student will get his hands on the gun. Or the teacher will fire with good intentions, miss the target, and start shooting innocent students. Or the police will burst into the school and see an adult with a gun and, not being able to tell the "good guy with a gun" from the "bad guy with a gun," take the teacher out.

Or maybe it would just be easier to keep the school shooters from getting guns in the first place.

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