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Deep State Witch

(10,429 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:20 PM Jun 2022

And Now They're Invoking Jim Jones

The latest gun nut talking point is that "In 1978 Jim Jones used coolaid (sic) to kill 909 people, which goes to show you that sick and violent people don't need guns to kill people."

I've seen this about 3x in comments in the past few hours. I wonder which NRA shill put that into people's minds?

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And Now They're Invoking Jim Jones (Original Post) Deep State Witch Jun 2022 OP
Easy to put down this asinine talking point. wnylib Jun 2022 #1
Plus they used guns to shoot sitting congresspersons... Probatim Jun 2022 #32
And others. Many tried to run and were shot. Some took the poison at gunpoint. Midnight Writer Jun 2022 #33
Recently, in the USA, some sick fuck cult leader caused hundreds of thousands of follower deaths. TheBlackAdder Jun 2022 #45
They used Flavor Aid temporary311 Jun 2022 #2
Thanks! Deep State Witch Jun 2022 #8
Wasn't there people with guns who helped force the people to drink the Kool aid MacKasey Jun 2022 #3
+100! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #12
+1 musette_sf Jun 2022 #16
What stupid logic. Karadeniz Jun 2022 #4
That's effed up! madinmaryland Jun 2022 #5
Vlad Tepesh impaled thousands on stakes! dchill Jun 2022 #6
TFG's lies about covid CloudWatcher Jun 2022 #24
I know, right? dchill Jun 2022 #29
+1 Hugin Jun 2022 #36
Jackie Speier (now a Democratic congresswoman from CA) was shot at Jonestown. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2022 #7
And didn't she lie there on the tarmac until the next day? Leith Jun 2022 #21
Yes. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2022 #25
Superstupid. moondust Jun 2022 #9
Good word,,,,, I plan to use it. Thank you! n/t KarenS Jun 2022 #11
YW moondust Jun 2022 #14
Well, it worked with cult followers. Baitball Blogger Jun 2022 #10
May I have gun nuts for $500 ? Pobeka Jun 2022 #13
Sounds like something... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #15
Cannabis must have been a leading cause - just ask NoMoreRepugs Jun 2022 #17
I said there was an overlap between Jim Jones and Trump when Trump "came down the escalator." Patterson Jun 2022 #18
Maybe the Q nuts and GQPpers can follow that example relayerbob Jun 2022 #19
What the hell did TFG give his cult? SergeStorms Jun 2022 #20
Even so.....how many THOUSANDS have died in our society by AR-15's and the like RECENTLY. Hulk Jun 2022 #22
Absolutely kacekwl Jun 2022 #30
my response: What is the primary purpose for kool aid? What is the primary purpose of a gun? AZLD4Candidate Jun 2022 #23
kool aid destroys people's lives permanently IronLionZion Jun 2022 #35
Oh for fuck's sake! Initech Jun 2022 #26
Response: Jim Jones did NOT use Kool-Aid/Flavor-Aid to kill 909 people SpankMe Jun 2022 #27
He actually killed them with cyanide. LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #28
And he had to get a permit. calimary Jun 2022 #41
The purveyor of this most recent myth is probably Lapierre himself. He's had quite a lot to do with Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #31
GOP killed a million Americans with COVID IronLionZion Jun 2022 #34
Well if Trump TOLD them to drink cyanide Kool-ade ThoughtCriminal Jun 2022 #37
Good argument Shoonra Jun 2022 #38
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2022 #39
Can't argue with stupid. We just can't engage with them, it's not worth it. Cozmo Jun 2022 #40
But There Isn't Any Correlation There DallasNE Jun 2022 #42
HEY KOOL-AID!!! Blue Owl Jun 2022 #43
Why not? If anyone knows anything about cults, it's the modern day QOP IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #44

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
1. Easy to put down this asinine talking point.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:23 PM
Jun 2022

How many mass suicides in a cult compared to the number of mass shootings?

What a stupid argument.

MacKasey

(987 posts)
3. Wasn't there people with guns who helped force the people to drink the Kool aid
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jun 2022

Remember the people who killed congressman Leo Ryan and shot Jackie Spears and other people who are trying to leave jonestown

Jim Jones had a lot of guns also

dchill

(38,505 posts)
6. Vlad Tepesh impaled thousands on stakes!
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jun 2022

Donald Trump lied about COVID-19.
18-year-old homegrown terrorists kill with assault rifles.
SCOTUS kills with misinterpreted Constitution.

Little can be done about Vlad. Everything else MUST be dealt with!

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
7. Jackie Speier (now a Democratic congresswoman from CA) was shot at Jonestown.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 09:28 PM
Jun 2022

She was an aide to Rep. Leo Ryan, who was shot to death.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
20. What the hell did TFG give his cult?
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:35 PM
Jun 2022

If you can put rage, lies, petulance, and stupidity in a bottle or envelope, TFG has done it. His cult slurps it up and begs for more.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
22. Even so.....how many THOUSANDS have died in our society by AR-15's and the like RECENTLY.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:41 PM
Jun 2022

Sure, stay away from poison laced Kool-Aid, but does that somehow justify these military assault weapons on the streets for angry, confused and fucked up sickos to take out as many innocent lives as they can dream up, so they go out in some sort of "blaze of glory".

BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS.....WEAPONS OF WAR. THEN join in with red flag laws, background checks, raise the age limit, etc, etc. But get those fucking weapons of war OFF THE STREETS of America. Sweet Jesus....what a simple concept.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
35. kool aid destroys people's lives permanently
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:30 PM
Jun 2022

while guns are refreshing and enjoyable on a hot summer day. Ban kool aid

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
27. Response: Jim Jones did NOT use Kool-Aid/Flavor-Aid to kill 909 people
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jun 2022

He used cyanide. The fruit punch component didn't do the killing. The poison did. Try to buy cyanide today and see what happens.

If we disguise guns with knitted tea cozies, do we say the tea cozy did the killin'?

I can't say it enough: today's crop of Republicans are so stupid, it's a wonder they even know how to breathe.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
28. He actually killed them with cyanide.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 10:59 PM
Jun 2022

...which is sales-restricted to those with a permit in the United States.

Also, it was Flavor Aid , not coolaid (sic).

Weakest, and stupidest, argument yet for not regulating guns.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
31. The purveyor of this most recent myth is probably Lapierre himself. He's had quite a lot to do with
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:13 PM
Jun 2022

shaping NRA ideology and propaganda.

IronLionZion

(45,454 posts)
34. GOP killed a million Americans with COVID
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:28 PM
Jun 2022

viruses and poison and other methods are more complicated than firing bullets at school children. The Jonestown cult were heavily armed and shot plenty of people too because not everyone consents to be poisoned and some folks tried to escape.

Shoonra

(523 posts)
38. Good argument
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:36 PM
Jun 2022

If someone can kill with CoolAid (actually, Jim Jones used an imitation brand, FlavorAid) then removing guns from the marketplace doesn't leave people defenseless, they can always use CoolAid. Or butterknives, or throw pillows, just something other than firearms.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
39. Recommended.
Thu Jun 2, 2022, 11:39 PM
Jun 2022

Jones did use koolaid to kill people. Trump used twitter to accomplish something similar, in stealing his cult members' consciences and souls.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
42. But There Isn't Any Correlation There
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 12:10 AM
Jun 2022

Yes, Jones warped their minds to where they obediently consumed the kool-aid. One example is self-employed inflected and the other is cold-blooded.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
44. Why not? If anyone knows anything about cults, it's the modern day QOP
Fri Jun 3, 2022, 04:35 AM
Jun 2022

They have their own Jim Jones. I won't name names, but his initials are Jonald T. Drump. If he told them to drink grape Flavor Aid laced with covfefe, they would. If he told them to jump off a cliff, they would. If he tells them to march on the Capitol... Wait. That already happened.

True, sick and violent people (and stupid qult members) don't need guns to kill people.. Guns just make it easier. And that's why gun control is needed. Because these sick and violent Cult Covfefe members want to kill us, and the less AR-15's and the like floating around and getting into the hands, the better.

Meanwhile, may the cult members lay off the orange Kool-Aid.

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