Just a thought, what if the committee has evidence they planned the coup before the election.

[fightforfreedom]

Their entire defense is based on they had evidence the election WAS stolen. You can't have evidence the election was stolen before the election. Would this not show intent? They saw the polls, they probably thought they were going to lose. Maybe they started to make plans before the election.

[Kingofalldems]

1. Trump was talking about rigged election before November.

So yes.

[NanceGreggs]

5. Exactly. n/t

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

11. He was talking about it...

before the 2016 election.

[towerbum]

18. that was brought up in 3 yrs ago & can't remember who said it ?

[wnylib]

25. He sure was. I remember the debate question

in 2016 when he answered whether he would concede a loss. He said he would object to the outcome only if he didn't win.

He was more direct about the same question in 2020.

Both times he said that if he lost, it meant that the election was rigged.

[peggysue2]

13. Trump was talking about it non-stop

And his surrogates were murmuring about an election thrown to the House a good six months before the first vote was cast. They knew the Orange Slug was on a glide path to lose after the pandemic debacle. They couldn't let that happen and . . . voila, coup plans were underway with so-called legal justifications.

Or as the one judge said: this was a coup searching for a legal theory.

They planned it. They enacted it. Fortunately for all of us, it failed. The only missing ingredient?

Accountability, aka Asses in Jail.

[wnylib]

26. He knew that he would not get the votes in 2020

and did not care because he intended to claim a win no matter what.

He refused to alter his campaign behavior and made no effort to appeal to independents or to any faction of voters besides his hard core base. He knew he could count on his base to respond to a call for a coup after proclaiming the results fraudulent.

[Beartracks]

28. Certainly. He was laying the groundwork in advance for the Big Lie. n/t

[Manfred Arcane]

33. Trump was talking about rigged elections in 2012...

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=RPQDdsCWLVAwa1N9fVKIkQ


The only elections which are fair in Trump's mind are those where he or those he supports win. All others are rigged.

[multigraincracker]

2. I like the way you think..

Kind of blows it all away.

[agingdem]

23. and months prior to the election

Bill Barr was questioning the validity of mail-in ballots, DeJoy was slowing the mail, removing mailboxes and trashing sorting machines, Trump was "warning" his rally idiots the only way he could possibly lose was if the election was rigged..the seeds of the conspiracy to overthrow the election were planted long before election day...

[wnylib]

27. Absolutely true.

[Novara]

3. They were definitely already making plans before the election.

They read the tea leaves.

[Vdizzle]

20. Not sure most of them can read anything let alone tea leaves...

N/t

[Baked Potato]

4. It probably went back years. Nt

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Maybe??? After 4 years of screaming 'rigged election'?

You make a good point though. It's a subtlety lost because of the insurrection itself.

[FakeNoose]

7. Chump didn't talk to Eastman until after the election

However Chump may have been cooking up plots with Giuliani before the election. We know they were colluding on other stuff (like trying to blackmail Pres. Zelenskyy) in 2019 - one full year BEFORE the election. It was also before they knew whether Joe Biden was going to be the Democratic opponent.

[Ohio Joe]

8. It just needs to be shown to have happened before 1/6

That is the date the attempted coup happened. Anything before should be enough to show intent. My belief is that they will be able to show that easily.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. You mean like now.

[erronis]

10. They didn't expect to win in 2016 and would claim it stolen. They didn't expect in 2020 either.

They had all barrels loaded with crap years before the elections.

They knew they didn't have the popular vote by a huge margin.

They thought they might not even have the Electoral College for 2020.

Like most bad Boy Scouts, they wanted to Be Prepared.

They found some of the most incredibly incompetent people to help them Become Prepared.

Thank Goddess!

[LisaM]

19. Reminds me of 2000.

The Bush team has plans for a lawsuit in the event they won the popular vote and lost the Electoral College.

It's easy to forget how awful they were and how much damage they caused.

[mn9driver]

12. I remember an Orangeshitgibbon interview from about a month before

He was spewing his usual crooked election crap and the interviewer came right out and asked him if he would accept a loss.

He got this strange look on his face and then smirked his way through the rest of the interview without answering the question.

He knew exactly what he was going to do.

[rubbersole]

14. They will disclose the planners in the televised hearings.

My guess is Roger Stone, Rudy and assorted traitors collaborated with the mayonnaise militias to do some serious violence.

[Evolve Dammit]

17. Totally planned to pull a coup in the event of a loss. Fuck 'em and LOCK THEM UP!!!

[ultralite001]

21. Manafort...

The playbook was detailed in Paul Manafort’s plans for Ukraine…

[SKKY]

22. They keep teasing a "bombshell", and "unreleased information"...

...wouldn't that be something if this was all in the works before the election?

[onecaliberal]

29. When was the plot about the alternate electors cooked up?

I know the DOJ is focused on that too.

[lees1975]

30. Bannon and other Trump insiders were laying out ways to overturn the election

and projecting them on to the Obama administration at the end of his second term. They were claiming that Obama and the Democrats were planning to declare martial law to keep Trump out while they figured out how to put Hillary in there, how "fake electors" could sneak into the EC, and pretty much the whole scene that they tried to pull. They knew, and of course they had plans to overturn the election before it was over, and I hope the proof turns up and these guys, starting with Trump himself, wind up in prison.

[Joinfortmill]

31. I suspect they did.

[brooklynite]

32. What if the Committee doesn't?

Why speculate on what the Committee has before they release it?

[2naSalit]

34. Jr was communicating...

To other co-conspirators that they had several plans in place if the election part didn't go their way on or before election day.