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newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 09:56 AM Jun 2022

Lake Mead is 1/3rd full.

I have a friend that has a son living out there. He and his wife are considering buying a house in Vegas. I told my friend I advise her son not to buy. It's going to be a mass housing and population drop in the next 10 years.

20 years of drought is not a drought. It's a new climate!

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Lake Mead is 1/3rd full. (Original Post) newdayneeded Jun 2022 OP
There are a lot of options for basic essentials. Water is not one of them... hlthe2b Jun 2022 #1
AZ has been planning ahead. Phoenix has a 100 year plan. Mosby Jun 2022 #22
It's not even 29% full at the moment . . . . hatrack Jun 2022 #2
AOC is correct: We need a Green New Deal Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #3
That map is a pretty good indicator of where people will move in 20 years NickB79 Jun 2022 #4
The rich will survive when most of the planet is unlivable. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #5
600+ ppm CO2e by 2040. roamer65 Jun 2022 #20
Thank you. These are amazing maps. So much information. ratchiweenie Jun 2022 #7
You are most welcome! Must share one other thing I found today... Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #17
OMG. I'm in my 70's and already having enough senior moments. It's so sad what we are doing to ratchiweenie Jun 2022 #26
Where are we going to find the people to work those green jobs? Recursion Jun 2022 #9
Who can build a pyramid? Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #16
These depopulation predictions have been made for decades now. former9thward Jun 2022 #6
Cassandra keeps saying the House of Atreus will fall... Recursion Jun 2022 #10
You're the same one who said there's plenty of water in Arizona this spring NickB79 Jun 2022 #12
Yes I am. former9thward Jun 2022 #15
Good luck with that NickB79 Jun 2022 #18
No, its actually powered by a nuclear plant. former9thward Jun 2022 #19
See my post 22. Mosby Jun 2022 #23
Yes, thank you. former9thward Jun 2022 #24
👍 Mosby Jun 2022 #25
It's actually raining in NorCal today Sympthsical Jun 2022 #8
Collect water from the air in the desert. panader0 Jun 2022 #11
+1 CentralMass Jun 2022 #13
Better than the idea from Las Vegas to take water from the great basin table ripcord Jun 2022 #14
Don't move to the Great Lakes region. roamer65 Jun 2022 #21

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
1. There are a lot of options for basic essentials. Water is not one of them...
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 10:03 AM
Jun 2022

Phoenix and Las Vegas are among the areas I'd never relocate to for that reason alone.

I'm sickened at how the RW has managed to prevent any action for decade after decade. The next wars across the world WILL be for water. I may not live to see the worst, but the youngest generations surely will. Like gun violence, at least 40% of this country's populace just doesn't give a damn and it is increasingly too much to bear.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
4. That map is a pretty good indicator of where people will move in 20 years
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jun 2022

East and North. Those drought conditions are largely permanent at 400+ ppm of CO2, and we'll be at 500 ppm by 2040.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
5. The rich will survive when most of the planet is unlivable.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:02 PM
Jun 2022

From the comfort of their redoubts in Patagonia and near the Arctic Circle, they’ll laugh watching humanity “vote with their feet,” as the gas stations will have long been emptied.

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
17. You are most welcome! Must share one other thing I found today...
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 02:20 PM
Jun 2022
Rising carbon dioxide causes more than a climate crisis -- it may directly harm our ability to think

New research finds that an anticipated rise in carbon dioxide concentrations in our indoor living and working spaces by the year 2100 could lead to impaired human cognition.

As the 21st century progresses, rising atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) concentrations will cause urban and indoor levels of the gas to increase, and that may significantly reduce our basic decision-making ability and complex strategic thinking, according to a new CU Boulder-led study. By the end of the century, people could be exposed to indoor CO2 levels up to 1400 parts per million -- more than three times today's outdoor levels, and well beyond what humans have ever experienced.

Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200421090556.htm

ratchiweenie

(7,754 posts)
26. OMG. I'm in my 70's and already having enough senior moments. It's so sad what we are doing to
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jun 2022

our earth and that we are refusing to take it seriously. It breaks my heart.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. Where are we going to find the people to work those green jobs?
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:25 PM
Jun 2022

There's not exactly some huge labor surplus on the sidelines

Kid Berwyn

(14,909 posts)
16. Who can build a pyramid?
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jun 2022

“Whether you think you can, or think you can’t — you’re right.” — Henry Ford

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
6. These depopulation predictions have been made for decades now.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:20 PM
Jun 2022

They are always 10 or 20 years out. And they have never come true. The SW continues to expand in housing and population as people and companies escape the miserable weather in the Midwest and NE.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
12. You're the same one who said there's plenty of water in Arizona this spring
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:58 PM
Jun 2022

And argued there's no serious drought in the Southwest.

You've already demonstrated your lack of knowledge.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
15. Yes I am.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:51 PM
Jun 2022

And I will say it again. You have demonstrated your lack of knowledge about where water comes from in AZ. I still have water flowing out of my faucets, much to your disappointment I'm sure.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
18. Good luck with that
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 03:06 PM
Jun 2022

The water coming from your faucet is powered in part by the hydroelectric power going through Hoover Dam, among others. They're all approaching failure.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/hoover-dam-power-production-down-33-official-says/

Enjoy the dead pool, and I don't mean the superhero movie.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
19. No, its actually powered by a nuclear plant.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 03:19 PM
Jun 2022

I get no power from the Hoover Dam. Water in the Phoenix metro area comes from many sources. Yes, the Colorado River is one but cities and communities here can operate without any water from that river.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
24. Yes, thank you.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 03:48 PM
Jun 2022

I think AZ in general has been good in planning for the water future. Non potable water used for green areas and a reduction in unnecessary green vegetation like lawns.

Sympthsical

(9,074 posts)
8. It's actually raining in NorCal today
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 12:23 PM
Jun 2022

Not enough to fill reservoirs or anything, but enough to not actively worry about a blazing fire taking out a town or two for the next few weeks.

It's actually been going since at least dawn. Fairly healthy amount for June. Which is good, because we haven't really been watering anything. It's like, "Oh good, the backyard will stop being that interesting khaki color."

I'll take it.

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
14. Better than the idea from Las Vegas to take water from the great basin table
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:15 PM
Jun 2022

Large cities always think they should be entitled to water from other areas, Los Angeles created one of the largest man made environmental disasters by draining Owen lake for their water. To this day they complain and try to get around the ruling made that forced them to mitigate the damage they caused.

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