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Is a juvenile's criminal history available to those making decions about firearms ownership? (Original Post) ripcord Jun 2022 OP
IIRC, juvie records are sealed. So, no is the answer you seek. yagotme Jun 2022 #1
That is kind of frightening ripcord Jun 2022 #2
Yup. yagotme Jun 2022 #3
Probably why so many of them buy those guns on their 18th birthday. Diamond_Dog Jun 2022 #4
Background checks are only as good as the info that's available to the "checker". yagotme Jun 2022 #5
There's no HIPAA problem Effete Snob Jun 2022 #6
Right in your own text. yagotme Jun 2022 #7

ripcord

(5,408 posts)
2. That is kind of frightening
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jun 2022

Someone could use a gun in a crime at 16 and then buy one legally at 18.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
3. Yup.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 07:06 PM
Jun 2022

Some of that happens now, with crimes being dismissed/pled down to sub-felonious levels. Have to be convicted of a felony to be denied on a BGC. If you're crime was pled down, well, you're GTG.

Diamond_Dog

(32,005 posts)
4. Probably why so many of them buy those guns on their 18th birthday.
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 07:11 PM
Jun 2022

Background check needs to include psychological records from high school or else it’s pointless to have background checks.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
5. Background checks are only as good as the info that's available to the "checker".
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 07:15 PM
Jun 2022

IIRC, the Texas church shooter awhile back (former AF), didn't have his ?BCD? entered in the system, which would have flagged him. Having mental records available for BGC's is really going to open another can of worms, from the medical side, re: HIPPA.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
6. There's no HIPAA problem
Sun Jun 5, 2022, 08:41 PM
Jun 2022

First off, it’s “HIPAA”.

But, more importantly, like any piece of federal legislation, it can be changed by additional legislation.

Gun background checks are ALREADY an exception.

https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/special-topics/nics/index.html

On January 4, 2016, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) moved forward on the Administration’s commitment to modify the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) Privacy Rule to expressly permit certain covered entities to disclose to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) the identities of those individuals who, for mental health reasons, already are prohibited by Federal law from having a firearm.


Try harder.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
7. Right in your own text.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 03:45 PM
Jun 2022

"expressly permit..."

Not mandate. Not 'You'd better". "Okay, if you feel like it."

Perhaps your attempts should be greater. My point is that the information provided to NICS is incomplete, or missing, and HIPAA was an obstacle. It really still is, as there are no teeth to the dragon.

The Air Force dropped the ball on the Texas church shooter, and you have all these "covered entities" that are just "permitted" to disclose info. You don't think someone's not going to drop the ball here?

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