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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 11:56 AM Jun 2022

Seattle's botched experiment with defund the police keeps getting worse

Seattle Times

Whether you think defund the police has some merit to it, or not, it’s becoming clear that no entity in the country has bungled the idea more than the city of Seattle.

We couldn’t even get the meter reader part of it right.

It never made much sense how moving parking enforcement out of the Police Department, and into the roads department, would further social or racial justice. But it was proposed in the hot summer of 2020 anyway, as a way to stick it to the cops by cutting their budget. Along with more meaningful moves, such as moving the 911 dispatch center to a new department to try to shift how many calls are answered by officers with guns.

The City Council initially cut the police budget by about 17%, never reaching the 50% goal. But the agency has been in a tailspin ever since.

More than 400 officers have left while crime has soared. This past week The Seattle Times and KUOW reported new sex assault cases aren’t being investigated because of understaffing. Meanwhile, the softer approaches envisioned for community safety still are in the pilot stages.

This past week the city announced it is refunding 100,000 parking tickets and voiding another 100,000 because of an oversight — namely that the parking enforcement officers, who are civilians, were not regranted the authority to write tickets after they were switched out of the Police Department last fall.
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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
6. There is no need for the military level police force we have.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:16 PM
Jun 2022

None.

Just because one attempt at implementation isn't going well, doesn't mean the concept is bad.

jimfields33

(15,948 posts)
7. They didn't get rid of military style stuff. They tried the easy way and failed misery
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

Like I said, thank God this didn’t go national.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,965 posts)
9. So, again, it's a problem with the implementation and not the concept.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:22 PM
Jun 2022

Does it make sense that we pay police officers to give parking tickets? Yeah, they screwed up with that, but parking tickets can go elsewhere.

jimfields33

(15,948 posts)
14. Hopefully none. It's up to each city to take care of homelessness
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:44 PM
Jun 2022

Some do it perfectly and others……

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
16. Is it up to each city to take care of other city's homeless?
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:50 PM
Jun 2022

That's what Seattle and every city on the I-5 corridor is struggling with.

"Some do it perfectly"? Examples, please.

ck4829

(35,090 posts)
3. A well-funded police force will not stop cops from investigating miscarriages and doing nothing
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:13 PM
Jun 2022

when school shootings are happening.

J_William_Ryan

(1,756 posts)
8. What they botched
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:17 PM
Jun 2022

is that no one advocates for ‘defunding’ the police.

What they botched was failing to hire mental health professionals to assist those suffering from homelessness, mental health issues, and substance abuse – that which sworn officers are unqualified to address.

What they botched was failing to enact a policy prohibiting sworn officers from trying to drag motorists out of cars, trying to wrestle detainees to the ground, and using unwarranted restraints against detainees, all of which have contributed to the needless death of citizens.

The problem was never meter readers.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
10. This is an opinion piece.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:31 PM
Jun 2022

"Crime has soared", but cops were doing shit to stop it regardless. Everything was NOT peachy before the Pandemic/BLM protests.



brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
13. It's an opinion held by the current and former Democratic Mayors
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:40 PM
Jun 2022
https://www.king5.com/amp/article/news/politics/seattle-budget-police-cuts/281-beee84b5-c669-4436-af39-93b9f11a82ac

City council cuts $10 million from Seattle Police Department in new budget proposal

Seattle's mayor and mayor-elect were outraged by the cuts, especially after they say recent election results demonstrated a rebuke by the public of defunding police.

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
15. Yes, budget PROPOSAL.
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 12:47 PM
Jun 2022

Per Mosqueda's announcement: "...in the wake of Covid induced hardship and decreased revenue forecast."


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