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H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:29 PM Jun 2022

Airplane

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/january-6-committee-hearing-june-9-primetime/


I remember Rubin Carter telling me a story I'd like to share. A primitive tribe of people, fully isolated from the outside world, came upon an airplane in their territory. A tribal elder decided that the seats inside that plane made a mighty comfortable couch. For weeks upon weeks, he gleamed with pride as he sat on his new couch.

Another person found that by working some of the buttons, he could make the plane move forward upon the ground. He earned honor for discovering the tribe's first automobile. But the tribe never learned that this airplane could fly.

This is a lesson about both individuals and groups. For example, after watching the House Committee's first 2022 televised hearing on the January 6 insurrection, as individuals and as a group, DU members can thin, "I knew the criminals in and around the White House planned this." Or express disgust on an internet forum or telephone conversations. Or, as individuals and hopefully as a group, we can contact the Department of Justice to express our opinion(s).

Some might think the DOJ has a handle on this, and will take care of business after the mid-terms. Others might think the DOJ has to do more, right away. Both views are valid, when one considers the opinions expressed by intelligent, experienced former federal prosecutors on CNN and MSNBC. I respect people's right to either opinion. And this will give everyone the opportunity to express their thoughts -- either by e-mail or telephone -- by using the below links.

Doing so is superior to sitting on our couches. It's better than driving a point home among like-minded people. We need to be organized and start taking flight with the destination of the November elections now.

Thank you for your consideration.


https://www.justice.gov/contact-us

https://www.justice.gov/doj/webform/your-message-department-justice
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Airplane (Original Post) H2O Man Jun 2022 OP
Bookmarked! leftieNanner Jun 2022 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2022 #2
No reason to contact DOJ unless you think they're NOT doing their job... brooklynite Jun 2022 #3
As far as I'm concerned, the DoJ has already failed in a big way, and can only at best partially... Silent3 Jun 2022 #5
"Swift Action" vs "Criminal Justice" brooklynite Jun 2022 #6
If the drive and willingness were there, the speed could be there Silent3 Jun 2022 #7
"It's only because of fear of political repercussions" brooklynite Jun 2022 #8
I offer only my life as an observer of the prosecutions that happen... Silent3 Jun 2022 #9
I'm old enough to H2O Man Jun 2022 #12
Thanks! H2O Man Jun 2022 #11
Thank you for voicing your opinion. H2O Man Jun 2022 #10
Airplane? Dr. Strange Jun 2022 #4
It is you, me, H2O Man Jun 2022 #14
Bookmarked Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #13
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2022 #15
Great movie! Xolodno Jun 2022 #16
Kick Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #17
Bookmarked! kentuck Jun 2022 #18
Thank you! H2O Man Jun 2022 #19

leftieNanner

(15,149 posts)
1. Bookmarked!
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:33 PM
Jun 2022

This is a great idea!

I call my Senators all the time. Even call my repug Congress Critter (that does not good).

I didn't know that we could contact the DOJ.

Let's flood them with calls.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
2. Thank you!
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:35 PM
Jun 2022

If every week, community members take one agency or politician to contact, we can make a difference.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
3. No reason to contact DOJ unless you think they're NOT doing their job...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:37 PM
Jun 2022

I personally have no such assumption.

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
5. As far as I'm concerned, the DoJ has already failed in a big way, and can only at best partially...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jun 2022

...recover from their failure.

We needed swift action well before the upcoming midterm elections to expose the deeper and ongoing coup, with some serious criminal consequences. Now Republican coup plotters, with the benefit of not having been exposed and convicted, get to further cement power in the upcoming elections, making future accountability much more difficult.

Very soon, if not already, we'll be in that "Oh, we can't appear political right before the elections!" mode at the DoJ that will slow things down even more.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
6. "Swift Action" vs "Criminal Justice"
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:49 PM
Jun 2022

Preparing a case a complex as this against, potentially, the former President isn't based on what the blogosphere "knows" to be "true" and doesn't translate to "swift".

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
7. If the drive and willingness were there, the speed could be there
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 02:55 PM
Jun 2022

It's only because of fear of political repercussions, and treating the powerful and well-connected as different and special from the rest of us, deserving of a higher level of caution and scrutiny and walking-on-eggshells care, that things are so slow.

brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
8. "It's only because of fear of political repercussions"
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 03:03 PM
Jun 2022

Can you share your prosecutorial experience to support that claim?

Add to which, have you contacted President Biden to have him replace Garland with someone else if he's not up to the job?

Silent3

(15,265 posts)
9. I offer only my life as an observer of the prosecutions that happen...
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 03:21 PM
Jun 2022

...and how often the rich, powerful, and well-connected get away with their crimes.

H2O Man

(73,605 posts)
12. I'm old enough to
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 03:56 PM
Jun 2022

remember Watergate, etc.

I would not expect our friend here to favor the ideas I expressed in the OP -- or any others I have -- but am delighted that he has invested this much time trying to discourage it.

For my part, I am an Amendment 1 type of person, and believe there is always value in letting those paid to represent me what I think about various issues.

Xolodno

(6,401 posts)
16. Great movie!
Mon Jun 6, 2022, 04:59 PM
Jun 2022
"...have you ever seen a grown man naked?"

..."I speak Jive"



Oh wait, you were talking about something else....

Ohio Joe

(21,761 posts)
17. Kick
Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:54 AM
Jun 2022

Not sure if this can go back to the top of GD but... Lets try, people may want (and should want) to see this again

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